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Old 11-21-2007, 12:20 AM
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when i say its about the way they dress its not the congregation its whats on the platform

and you know what? the person that was in charge when you all stopped coming was from the conservative camp - K.B why didn't you take it up with him ???
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:22 AM
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and you know what? the person that was in charge when you all stopped coming was from the conservative camp - K.B why didn't you take it up with him ???
yes, i know that where do you think my pastor is from.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:23 AM
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I'm not talking about the NCO ... I used them as an example of ministers who are members of more than one ministerial fellowship ....
both the NCO AND THE UPCI .... yet ... the NCO does not license.

however ... if the new UC org is licensing then I don't know if they, a minster seeking licenses with both, will be able to keep their UPC license .... I will check.
Thad Pastor Alicea is correct, the NCO is not an organization and does not issue licenses. Therefore no one is required to leave any organization to affiliate with the NCO.

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Dan,

NCO is a group that has gone Charismatic that's why they are frowned upon
Thad, very interesting comment. "Gone Charismatic"?

First the NCO is an open fellowship, made up of individuals from various denominations and world views. Its purpose is to provide information and tools for evangelism not to promote a particular dogma.

Having said that, the three individuals generally looked on as the "founders" are personally totally Apostolic in doctrine, and have not changed one iota in their beliefs, doctrine, or preaching. Especially since the Res. 4 passed they would match quite mid-stream UPC.

So Thad is it your position that the UPCI is now a Charismatic organization?
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:25 AM
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yes, i know that where do you think my pastor is from.

how was i suppose to know- did you assume i knew who you was ?
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the Ventura group (for lack of a name) are the ones that are pulling out of the UPC and going Independant
I thought Ventura was a city in California not a bunch of churches in the UPC.

Or maybe its just a boulevard?
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:26 AM
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how was i suppose to know- did you assume i knew who you was ?
no.
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:27 AM
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Thad Pastor Alicea is correct, the NCO is not an organization and does not issue licenses. Therefore no one is required to leave any organization to affiliate with the NCO.



Thad, very interesting comment. "Gone Charismatic"?

First the NCO is an open fellowship, made up of individuals from various denominations and world views. Its purpose is to provide information and tools for evangelism not to promote a particular dogma.

Having said that, the three individuals generally looked on as the "founders" are personally totally Apostolic in doctrine, and have not changed one iota in their beliefs, doctrine, or preaching. Especially since the Res. 4 passed they would match quite mid-stream UPC.

So Thad is it your position that the UPCI is now a Charismatic organization?
various denominations and world views- would that include Trinitarians?

no i don't consider UPC Charismatic - why would I ?
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:28 AM
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well how was i suppose to know where your pastor was from then ?
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:28 AM
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I thought Ventura was a city in California not a bunch of churches in the UPC.

Or maybe its just a boulevard?
it is a city in calif.thats just his title for us since we had a camp there
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Old 11-21-2007, 12:29 AM
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I thought Ventura was a city in California not a bunch of churches in the UPC.

Or maybe its just a boulevard?

Ventura is indeed a city and county seat in CA. it's basically in the northern end of the Los Angeles Area.

Ventura is where the group held their camp meeting this past summer
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