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How can a person actually be proud of a degree they didn't earn? That's like putting a take-out meal on my family's table, and expecting them to compliment ME on how delicious it is.
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How can a person actually be proud of a degree they didn't earn? That's like putting a take-out meal on my family's table, and expecting them to compliment ME on how delicious it is.
Personally, I feel a person could be awarded an honorary degree and consider it earned. Not all that get them, no. Of course not. I would say though that given his work in the field I think he probably earned the two degrees. I don't see it so cut and dry.
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How can a person actually be proud of a degree they didn't earn? That's like putting a take-out meal on my family's table, and expecting them to compliment ME on how delicious it is.
Well, there is a certain level of skill involved in ordering take-out, so....

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Personally, I feel a person could be awarded an honorary degree and consider it earned. Not all that get them, no. Of course not. I would say though that given his work in the field I think he probably earned the two degrees. I don't see it so cut and dry.
No one looks at honorary degrees as "earned" degrees. They are tokens of honor.

His work in what field earned him what degree?

So all that is required to to earn a scholastic achievement such as a Doctorate, is to work in the field? Work credits only take you so far.

And FTR, these weren't "honorary degrees." These are Diploma Mills.
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Personally, I feel a person could be awarded an honorary degree and consider it earned. Not all that get them, no. Of course not. I would say though that given his work in the field I think he probably earned the two degrees. I don't see it so cut and dry.
I agree, but isn't that a bestowed honor, rather than a requested piece of paper? Like a panel of people get together and say, "Who can we give an honorary degree to--ohhhh, THIS person--look at all the work he's done; let's give him a degree." ????

I've never received an honorary degree, so I guess I'm no expert on the process.
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No one looks at honorary degrees as "earned" degrees. They are tokens of honor.

His work in what field earned him what degree?

So all that is required to to earn a scholastic achievement such as a Doctorate, is to work in the field? Work credits only take you so far.
Okay. I see your point. Personal study and work in the field of manuscripts and paleontology. I believe this was the reason cited, at the Symposium, for him being awarded the degrees. Just because a degree is awarded though does not mean they haven't put in time and study into that field. Many of the Princeton degrees, I saw awarded in the past, went to some good ones. I think I even saw Paul Tillich being awarded a degree from Princeton.
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I agree, but isn't that a bestowed honor, rather than a requested piece of paper? Like a panel of people get together and say, "Who can we give an honorary degree to--ohhhh, THIS person--look at all the work he's done; let's give him a degree." ????

I've never received an honorary degree, so I guess I'm no expert on the process.
And it's not quite an honor getting it from some no-name school.
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Okay. I see your point. Personal study and work in the field of manuscripts and paleontology. I believe this was the reason cited, at the Symposium, for him being awarded the degrees. Just because a degree is awarded though does not mean they haven't put in time and study into that field. Many of the Princeton degrees, I saw awarded in the past, went to some good ones. I think I even saw Paul Tillich being awarded a degree from Princeton.
How does one even begin to work with manuscripts or paleontology without expertise? I'm not sure how that works.

And what degrees are we talking about? We know how he earned a degree at ABI. Sure, honorary degrees from Princeton, Yale, Cambridge -- those are quite a high honor. Neither are they synonymous with an actual Ph.D though. Most that receive honorary doctorates also have a doctorate. Ravi Zacharias for example. He has several honorary doctorates, on top of his own doctorate and work in the field of apologetics.
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I agree, but isn't that a bestowed honor, rather than a requested piece of paper? Like a panel of people get together and say, "Who can we give an honorary degree to--ohhhh, THIS person--look at all the work he's done; let's give him a degree." ????

I've never received an honorary degree, so I guess I'm no expert on the process.
Me either.

I just feel like a person could be awarded an honorary degree and yet have "earned" it in some way. I am referring to people that have done extensive study and research apart from attending a university. Not someone like Al Gore. Someone who has done digs, studies, papers, the time in research etc.
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