The Persecution of Women in the Church

[Scott Hutchinson]

If I understand my Bible women do have rights,of course they have a different role than a man,but I don't feel women are inferior or anything like that.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

If I understand my Bible women do have rights,of course they have a different role than a man,but I don't feel women are inferior or anything like that.

Most people who fight against "feminism" believe in equal rights for women. Usually they are fighting against radical feminism and they seem to think that anyone who believes in women pastors or women in pants is a radical feminist. That's not true by a long shot.

[Scott Hutchinson]

I do believe that women have a role in Christian Ministry ,but I don't see women bishops myself ,but I'm not a woman hater.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by ILG

Feminism is giving the same rights to women that men have. Like having your spouse only married to you.

No it isnt. if it was I would be one. well not really. I still wouldnt be one. feminism seeks to create sameness between the sexes.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by crazyhomie

You wouldn't be calling father Abraham stupid would you...

I agree with God on that subject.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by ILG

Yes, sociologists break it down into three different types.

1. Liberal Feminism which contains reproductive freedom (this might mean birth control all the way to abortion), shared responsibilities for men and women in child rearing, maternity leave. LF's support the family as a social institution but believe that families must support the ambitions of both men and women. LB's do not believe women need to march toward any single political goal.

I think most Christians who want any equal rights for women at all fit into this category minus abortion rights.

2. Socialist Feminism believes that capitolism and patriarchy oppresses women. They believe the family must be transformed. They want to transfer the economy into a state-centered system by ending "domestic slavery".

3. Radical Feminism thinks that the root of sexual oppression lies in gender iteself. They want to separate women's bodies from the process of childrearing and want the entire family system to be left behind. Parenting would be the responsibility of society as a whole rather than on individuals. Children's rights are important to this structure. Norms that favor heterosexuality over homosexuality and demands that sex take place only within marriage must be abolished.

As you can see, radical feminism has made a lot of inroads into our society. I think most Christians are very opposed to radical feminism, but most Christians are for liberal feminism as long as abortion is not included.

I got these definitions from Sociology 5th edition by John J. Macionis

I am against all 3.

[Rachel]

What's the issue with Liberal Feminism Ferd?

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

An interesting scripture is Nehemiah 6:7: "Thou hast appointed prophets to preach." Though some have said that prophets prophesy and preachers preach, but this proves that prophets or prophetesses preach. Jonah 3:2: "Arise, go to Ninevah, that great city, and preach unto it the preaching that I lead thee." No wonder the Bible teaches that to believe we must have a preacher to preach (Romans 10:14-15).

There no dispute over the prophets preaching but did the prophetesses do any preaching that is the verse you need. Let me get my penzil and paper to write that down.

[Sister Alvear]

I see no difference in a man or woman uttering a prophecy. They are vocal and say, Thus saith the Lord...do not confuse what I am saying with a man´s or woman´s role. I am only saying that women did LEAD God´s children such as Deborah and women such as Hulda uttered God´s word to priest and men.
I am not saying that is the norm BUT it did happen...
I think this is really not about women preachers but ow the RCC influnced people´s thinking. That is why we have trinity churches today thanks to the RCC and that is why women were taken out of the pulpits thanks to the RCC.

One of the greatest examples of women in ministry is Sister Agnes Holmes. Not belittling anything or any man but growing up there much of what God has done has been through Sister Holmes. If there is a Jesus Name church in Guy Arkansas it was Sister Holmes that started it and if there is one in Sherdian it was Sister Holmes that started it too along with many more.

Brother M. Burr was saved under the preaching of a woman along with MANY well known men preachers of the past...whether they believed in them later or believe in them now may be a different story BUT if it had not been for many women many great men that have graced the platforms would have been lost.
I believe it was Brother Springer that was saved under Sister Holmes preaching, Brother Craig Sissel and many, many others...

However unless it is with WB´s followers I do not debate the subject. I have never claimed to be a WP and have never been ordained as a preacher...I am only a missionary and a firm believer in Acts 8 where it teaches that men and women went every where preaching the word...So whatever that means that is what I am...a spreader of good news...

[Sister Alvear]

and since I posted after Elder Epley I am not disrespecting him. Personally I think he is a great man of God but I think he is wrong about women and he thinks my opinion is wrong...but we know how to differ and be friends.