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04-03-2007, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Malvaro
trying to earn yourself a one-week vacation, huh? 
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Ah, is it with Pay?
I'm interested!
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04-03-2007, 01:22 PM
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Lucys only infraction was pulling the Football away from poor Charlie Brown. 
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Poor Charlie. It's always "poor Charlie" but he was really so sweet! Always loved Charlie. Linus was too cute!
Oops. Off topic. LOL!
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04-03-2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
Poor Charlie. It's always "poor Charlie" but he was really so sweet! Always loved Charlie. Linus was too cute!
Oops. Off topic. LOL!
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My nickname as a kid was Peanuts because I looked like Linus.
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04-03-2007, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
You won't have to worry Tina. Just relax and enjoy your day. 
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HA! I wish I could.
We're in the process of doing major cleaning out getting ready to have a yard sale. No relaxing here...
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04-03-2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tina
HA! I wish I could.
We're in the process of doing major cleaning out getting ready to have a yard sale. No relaxing here...
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I hope you have a great day and that everything goes smoothly! I know how much work it is -- we've done it several times.
God bless you sis.
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04-03-2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Sorry Dan every thing you posted is an ASSUMPTION not ONE FACT is included.
All you need is where ONE woman preached in a public assembly to men and the discussion is over NAME the woman!!!!!!! Very simple.
The priesthood of all believers does NOT have ONE thing to do with the subject every saved person is included but every saved person is not in the 5-fold ministry.
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Still waiting on the same information from you on what Gentile man preached in a public assembly.
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Originally Posted by Theophilus
Surely you jest. What she's given is from Janice, and though I'm sure it's given liberally to any couple that will receive it, it's not of God. That's painfully apparent in this cross section of her ministry.
Dangereous thing to say, making yourself judge?
Now then, I realize that she is capable of regurgitating the Bible and doctrines and whatnot. She even has the ability to imitate that whole classic ‘preacher’ routine as well as anyone, but even the late Sam Kinison was able to pull off that stunt during his comedy routines.
Shouting into a mic and 'preaching' doesn't make you 'of God' no matter how much scripture you cite, no matter how loud, no matter how inaudible, and no matter how many people follow you around in support.
The truth is that this world is full of preachers that are of themselves, many of which, I'm sure, think that they do God service. This dying world recognizes this and needs another one like they need another lawyer. (no offense Newman)
What this world is in need of, the church included, are real preachers of God to get down to business and leave the new wisdoms and old clichés of this world were they belong and go with God soully.
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Originally Posted by Theophilus
It was the lawyer comment...wasn't it?
Did you bother to view her clips? She was most definitely in her flesh.
Again, this was YOUR OPINION! My guess is your wrong. But since neither of us were there it is only an opinion.
Has she ever been used of God? Perhaps, so has Kay Arthur for that matter and in the same respect: regurgitation...of the Word, respective Doctrines, and the wisdom and clichés of this present world. Doing such doesn't pass for being of God. In that case, every "Christian" can receive such credit to some degree. Sadly, many do, to their own destruction and that of those that follow them.
This basic premise is a general one that I would, after viewing the evidence, assign to Janice without hesitation, but to her credit she didn't invent it, she's simply following the suit of some. The culprit might very well be explained to the simple as arrogance and self-reliance of some in the Ministry. (i.e. the flesh)
Absolutely not. However, I am so positive that God ONLY anoints those that minister to fit His thinking and purpose. That being said, when one that is believed to be "anointed" gives us Exhibit A,B, & C contrary to, that which is of God, and His Word, then you know that the flesh is in play.
Let us not mistake entertainments, contemporary wisdoms, and custom interpretations for anointing. One of these elements are rare, the rest in too much abundance, and yes...unfortunately...even in Pentecost.
Keep in mind, having had the New Birth Experience doesn't give 'diplomatic' immunity, not in this world, nor the world to come. Neither does it an anointed minister make.
Again seems like a lot of judging going on as to what is of God and isn't. Seems based purely on your on take of how things should be done. Not wise in opinion.
What is she reaching them with? Maybe she will appeal to a certain demographic that is likeminded, but what is she reaching them with? What is she teaching? What impression is she responsible for putting upon her demographic that is not of God, yet appealing to the demographic?
Newman, In order to truly reach out to, grab hold of, and truly help save anyone to Christ, it must be with Christ alone, His Way. Else, what are we reaching them with in vain?
Consider the above quote carefully, honestly think about it. What is it really saying? I have to ponder: How foolish have we become to believe and assert that someone, or some group, cannot be reached but by a certain custom way or person(s)?
For example, we do not need feminists to reach feminists, the same as we don't need homosexuals to reach homosexuals. If they cannot be reached with His Way by the people of The Way(singular) then they will be lost. The message is not to custom conform to the lost, to the contrary, it is the lost that needs to be conformed to the Message and the Message Giver who is Christ.
If women are to be truly used of God, it will be done in a Godly way and according to their purpose and function within the Body, not contrary to His Word.
I have to wonder what you think that is???
Janice has given us a glimpse of what is not of God. With all due respect, the evidence is on the table, counselor. You all can circle the wagons and like her as much as you want. That is admirable, but it doesn't change the truth, nor diminish the evidence given straight from the source.
I'll resign to my original post on the matter and let the evidence speak for itself. God Bless, Theo.
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Again your very bold to declare what is and is not of God as though you are the ultimate expert. That tells me you are not, because a wise man would be very careful in saying what is and is not of God. JMO
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04-03-2007, 01:30 PM
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My nickname as a kid was Peanuts because I looked like Linus. 
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LOL. Everyone loved Linus didn't they?
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04-03-2007, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Esther
Again your very bold to declare what is and is not of God as though you are the ultimate expert. That tells me you are not, because a wise man would be very careful in saying what is and is not of God. JMO
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But Esther .... in truth.... we all do it! As we should!
I believe we need to be careful in the way we judge but we are given the right to do that in Scripture.
I think JS was very much in the flesh personally. But again, this is my personal opinion.
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04-03-2007, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
I think it's okay for a voice to be raise, and emphasis and excitment is fine, but a lady is always expected to act like a lady and when the line is crossed it becoms unattractive.
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And you think the line was crossed in this clip? If so, how so?
Also, who defines this "line" you speak of? Males? Females? God? World? Custom? Tradition? Stereotypes?
And where does this line stop?
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04-03-2007, 02:07 PM
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And you think the line was crossed in this clip? If so, how so?
Also, who defines this "line" you speak of? Males? Females? God? World? Custom? Tradition? Stereotypes?
And where does this line stop?
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Lady Rev.....
Which clip are you referring to?
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