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Old 12-29-2010, 09:07 AM
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Wiggle .. heehaw ... squirm ... it's like trying to nail jello.

You'd attend, place your stamp of approval and celebrate the union of your Christian friend with an unbeliever as well ... despite the clear command not to be unequally yoked ...

We're not arguing their standing ... we're arguing whether your or my attendance is a stamp of approval or promotion of a lifestyle.
Oh! Perhaps I misunderstood the question... I am not so sure I would attend a practicing Christian's wedding IF they were getting married to a Muslim or Buddhist who does not recognize Jesus as God. And you are right it would be based on the clear instruction to avoid marrying the unbeliever.

I think a strong case might be made that a true Christian would not be doing that exact thing though.
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Oh! Perhaps I misunderstood the question... I am not so sure I would attend a practicing Christian's wedding IF they were getting married to a Muslim or Buddhist who does not recognize Jesus as God.

I think a strong case might be made that a true Christian would not be doing that exact thing though.
No it was two distinct questions ... but to say that true Christians don't make mistakes ... is to say they would not fall for heretical teaching despite your affinity to extend the right hand of fellowship to Branhamites ... or if your friend started attending a church that teaches Word of Faith or prosperity doctrine.

I'd question your true friendship if you did not attend ... that's for sure.
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?

Would any of you pastors officiate a mixed couple, if one was a Christian and the other wasn't?
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Would any of you pastors officiate a mixed couple, if one was a Christian and the other wasn't?
My dad would officiate such a wedding ... just not at the church.
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And some you thought you left legalism ... BUUUUUUUUUWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHA.
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Ephesians 5
1Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

2And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.

Notice he mentions walk in love? Some keep driving the point about showing love, let's look at what Paul says about certain lifestyles and what should be our response.

3But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;

4Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

5For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.



I'm sure we all agree that homosexuals not making it in the kingdom of God. I hope we all agree.





6Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.


Gods wrath is upon them.



7Be not ye therefore partakers with them.


Be not partakers, now does that only mean don't join whoremongers in the bed? Shortly we will see what Paul says to do.



8For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:

9(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth

10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.


We are to walk in the light PROVING what is acceptable to the Lord.



11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

12For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.



Some things are even shameful to talk about let alone show up with gifts to celebrate it. We should reproving them to prove what is acceptable to the Lord.





13But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light



"All things that are reproved" Who does that reproving? Paul didn't say let God do it, but we should be reproving. One way we do that is like APOSTLE Paul taught is to not fellowship.


Notice this all started with "walk in love" How can Paul go from Love to reproving whoremongers, fornicators, idolators etc......?? Did he lack the "love the sinner" revelation?


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No it was two distinct questions ... but to say that true Christians don't make mistakes ... is to say they would not fall for heretical teaching despite your affinity to extend the right hand of fellowship Branhamites ... or if your friend started attending a church that teaches Word of Faith or prosperity doctrine.

I'd question your true friendship ... that's for sure.
Well, it seems apparent that you are the one with strange affinity of Branhamites... . But you are correct, I see them and WOF folks as something closer to Christian brethren than Buddhists or Muslims - I am sure there are many Christians in both movements.

Christians making mistakes? Oh sure! It's just that I don't normally plan a party in celebration when they do.
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My dad would officiate such a wedding ... just not at the church.
Do you think that might be inconsistent?
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Do you think that might be inconsistent?
I am not sure. I think his reasoning would be that he is officiating as an individual sanctioned by the State as opposed to officiating it as a pastor of the church in his charge.

He and I would disagree (especially on church policy) ... quite a bit when he was alive and would now.

But he did know how to compartmentalize on many issues and was not static.

I witnessed him 180 on euthanasia when it came to the Schiavo case as his own mortality came into view.
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I witnessed him 180 on euthanasia when it came to the Schiavo case.
What do you mean? You think she should have been put down?
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