House Rep Scalise Shot

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

This isn't Trump's fault. This was done long before Trump. The Medicare Part D "donut hole" has been around since W's administration passed it.

It's Trump's fault for not leading the way to correct the problem in an equitable fashion that would value the lives of sick Americans. There was a time when Trump supported Single Payer. Instead, he's become a part of the establishment and fully supports the GOP's Congressional agenda to leave millions in a free fall concerning their health care needs.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

Bernie is right .... BUT?????

What on God's green earth. There should be no "but!"

You keep claiming you don't condone the shooting, yet you post this stuff which condones it.

Well, it's just a bunch of rich, white conservatives with no skin in the game. How dare they play ball while people are suffering and dying.

Sad fact: people are suffering and dying every. single. day. Yet I don't recall you whining about obama playing golf each week. I certainly don't remember you offering excuses for someone to target him for playing golf.

Good grief, Aquila.

You're not understanding what I'm saying. To the mentally unbalanced who are hurting... that's what it could look like they are doing. It's not MY opinion. It's my concern. Where's your head?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I've repeatedly condemned it.

I've repeatedly said I'm against needless death, be it a senseless shooting or someone dying of a treatable condition. I've repeatedly said that I think those who do things like this are unbalanced and psychologically/emotionally disturbed. I strongly condemn such an action.

I have condemned the shooting.

At the time I posted, you had not condemned THIS shooting. Your original post excused the shooting, doesn't matter how you try to spin it.

The only thing you said at that point was "I don't support violence against conservatives," though again, you keep posting excuses about rich conservatives with no skin in the game who are laughing and playing ball while people are dying ...

That you can't see how your posts are excusing, if not condoning, the shooting is pretty sad.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

No, no. Right-wing, conservative Christian violence was a concern of yours. Your posts over and over today are offering excuses for the Bernie supporter who targeted the GOP.

Good grief, you're stuck on this. LOL

You post here that you don't advocate violence .... BUT ... rich, white conservatives with no "skin in the game" should start wearing bullet proof vests because liberals have the guts to start a revolt.

Twisting my words.

That's advocating violence.

I don't advocate violence.

Seriously. 100% you concern me. Ex mil, ptsd, Bernie supporter, angry liberal raging against conservatives, blaming them for the death of your mother. All the boxes are checked and point to danger. I'm being completely serious, you need help. A pastor, elder, psychologist, something.

LOL Seriously???

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

It's Trump's fault for not leading the way to correct the problem in an equitable fashion that would value the lives of sick Americans. There was a time when Trump supported Single Payer. Instead, he's become a part of the establishment and fully supports the GOP's Congressional agenda to leave millions in a free fall concerning their health care needs.

What about obama? Why not blame him? Dude had 8 years and only made it worse with obamacare.

You're complaining about Trump who has been in office all of 4 1/2 months and who has had to deal with the fake collusion scandal perpetrated by Democrats and the media.

It's called being a partisan hack. You can't blame Trump, but you do because he's the eevvvvviiiiiiillllllllllll Republican. Strike two, he's rich. Strike three, no skin in the game.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Good grief, you're stuck on this. LOL

Stuck on what? The fact that your concern was only aimed at right-wing conservative Christians? Or the fact that the shooter was a Bernie supporter?

Originally Posted by Aquila

Twisting my words.

I'm just putting them together. You may not like how it looks put together, but it is what you posted.

Originally Posted by Aquila

I don't advocate violence.

BUUUUUUT ...

Originally Posted by Aquila

LOL Seriously???

I'm not laughing.

[Amanah]

the GOP is trying to fix the ACA which is imploding. The Dems knew it would implode on the GOP watch and they didn't care. The point was an agenda to move us towards more Govt control.

The level of violent rhetoric we're seeing is because of the MSM's need to churn out fake news for ratings.

Then you have mentally ill people who take it to heart and turn to actual violence.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

1) your 45,000 number was previously debunked.

Oh, that's right... my mom was the only one who died in 2007 who didn't have health insurance or money to see specialists that could have helped her. My bad. lol

2) you don't know and cannot guarantee life even with liberal utopian healthcare. Read the Bible. No one is guaranteed life.

Well there ya go. No one is guaranteed life, why do we need an Amendment to protect our right to defend ourselves?

That is stupid logic and you know it.

That's not true. I've stated my condolences more than once over the loss of your mother.

Nope. You plainly said, and I quote:

Originally Posted by n david

Liberals love using loved ones as political props.

Originally Posted by n david

Don't put it back on conservatives. Call it whatever: props, bargaining chips, fodder, etc. You USE people to advance your radical agenda.

Why offer condolences, according to you she's only a political prop, bargaining chip, fodder, someone to USE.

I mean, just be honest. That's what you think of those who have died and caused so many to consider the need for universal health insurance. I mean, own it. Be proud of it. It's what makes you a conservative. Don't try to get all mushy and compassionate now. Besides, you'll only sound compassionate... but cackle with glee as vast numbers of Americas lose the coverage they need under this Trumpcare-tragedy.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Then you have mentally ill people who take it to heart and turn to actual violence.

Dude wasn't mentally ill. He simply followed the instruction of the media and liberals. His FB page was regurgitated rhetoric from the media and liberals.

Tim Kaine called for people to fight in the street.
Loretta Lynch called for more blood and death in the streets.
Fmr Rep Garcia called the GOP "the Taliban."
obama told his supporters to bring a gun to the knife fight.

And on and on.

Meanwhile, the media is writing fake news articles, claiming there was collusion between Trump, his campaign and Russia. The shooter read this and even signed a petition to "remove Trump" based on that lie.

The guy became indoctrinated by the media and liberal lies.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by n david

At the time I posted, you had not condemned THIS shooting. Your original post excused the shooting, doesn't matter how you try to spin it.

But people die every day right? Why worry about it? Is he your cuddle prop to denounce dastardly liberalism? Or do you REALLY care about this politician AND all those who will suffer as a result of the GOP agenda?

The only thing you said at that point was "I don't support violence against conservatives," though again, you keep posting excuses about rich conservatives with no skin in the game who are laughing and playing ball while people are dying ...

When those with the power to change things are supporting policies that hurt... and they are enjoying fun in the sun and laughing, it is a bit disturbing. But I'd not advocate shooting anyone.

That you can't see how your posts are excusing, if not condoning, the shooting is pretty sad.

If that's the case, I didn't intend to make that impression.

However, I'm very serious here. It's a concern of mine, and perhaps all of us, that unbalanced people are going to do some terrible things if the GOP agenda begins hurting enough people.