Another Mass Shooting

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by n david

News said sources called the terrorist's home an "IED factory." Not looking good for obama and the workplace violence peddlers.

This was, in all likelihood, an act of terror.

Now will obama have the guts to call it what it is?

I doubt it, since that will mean more egg on his face about containing isis.

It's spreading, and it's now here in the US.

The president needs to get his head out of his posterior and stop acting jv.

He can continue to spin this without fear of consequences since 40% at least will back him no matter what.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

News said sources called the terrorist's home an "IED factory." Not looking good for obama and the workplace violence peddlers.

This was, in all likelihood, an act of terror.

I agree.

Maybe because it was a Christmas party (or holiday party if this were government workers who refer to parties this time of hear as holiday parties).

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Islam is the only religion out of all the thousands of religions in the world where mass murders like this one are part of its ideology.

The neighbors and coworkers say the man who did this was peaceful, polite and quiet... until..... his extreme act was carried out. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/03...eserve-polite/

How can you trust those professing Islam who say they are "peaceful", when you see a situation such as this one?

My wife works for a security integrator that does the lions share of security (cameras and access control) for schools and colleges for state of Tennessee. They have a Muslim middle eastern guy who is an engineer that has security clearance to control cameras for schools and universities if needed. He is a very nice guy who has caused no problems JUST LIKE THE SAN BERNARDINO GUY!

I'm sure this incident has caused concerns within the company and the schools. It just makes my wife very nervous!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Nothing to add. I am left scratching my head with many questions. One question: was it really pre-planned to launch a terrorist attack on a social services building that provides assistance to the handicapped? Really? A terrorist organization planned to do this?

If the answer is yes, will you grant that this would be BY FAR the most absurd and asinine terrorist attack ever? Absolutely meaningless!

Its already been shown to you the attack was NOT on a social services building providing assistance to the handicapped.

He appears to have been an employee of the group having a party. He had angry words with someone and left and returned armed with his wife.

He had been planning something as can be seen from his collection of guns, ammo and bombs

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Honestly, if this is true, this does not sound like a targetted, pre-planned terrorist attack. This does not sound like ISIS cased out the daycare center and decided to kill handicap people in order to send a message.

Do you understand what I am saying?

Terrorism does not have to be pre-planned

He seems to have planned on doing something violent eventually..he had a small armament of guns, ammo and bombs. Workplace violence does not usually involve going home, getting bombs and your wife to go on a shooting rampage.

AND...for the last time PLEASE get this through your head...they did not target handicapped People. You have been told that already

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The problem with your.logic is that you have already provided the backdrop for this attack. The man was working, had an argument, left, came back with friends and shot up the place.

Seriously, if the narrative you provided is true, then it is hard to classify this tragedy as terrorism. There isn't an ideology being advanced in this incident. There is an angry guy at his work place...

He came back with his WIFE, armed with assault rifles and BOMBS. Do you know what planning goes into making bombs?

He was probably angry that it was a christmas party

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

At most, this would have to be the most hastily organized terrorist attack to ever take place on American soil.

It is not unreasonable to question whether this was a terrorist attack, given the chain of events that you have presented.

If it was terrorism, the only HASTY part was being there at a party, seeing no guards, leaving angry and realizing...by Allah I can kill them all!

He already HAD the weapons. He already MADE Bombs. He already had a wife who was as crazy as he....

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I don't have a source. I don't know who was killed. I am just trying to point out how absurd the whole situation is and how absurd to say without a doubt that this was a terrorist attack, based on the facts we have now.

If everything you say is true, then we are grasping for straws to call this terrorism. It might be, but it doesn't look like it.

You keep saying it's absurd because they targeted handicapped people

The flaw is two fold, first of all they did not target handicapped


Second Terrorists are interested in unsympathetic TERROR! They target the most vulnerable citizens that they can to strike TERROR into their hearts.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by StillStanding

My wife works for a security integrator that does the lions share of security (cameras and access control) for schools and colleges for state of Tennessee. They have a Muslim middle eastern guy who is an engineer that has security clearance to control cameras for schools and universities if needed. He is a very nice guy who has caused no problems JUST LIKE THE SAN BERNARDINO GUY!

I'm sure this incident has caused concerns within the company and the schools. It just makes my wife very nervous!

I would be nervous as well. Obama has quite a few Muslims planted in positions such as that - Homeland Security, etc.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Praxeas, you responded to all of my posts except for the ones that show where I agree that this was a terrorist attack.