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06-09-2007, 10:14 PM
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Superheros are evil...
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Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind
I predict they will not call you next year too.
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BOOM, you must be a NT Prophet! That declaration just moved your correct "thus sayeths" into the 51% percentile. You are now "more on than off!"
Congrats!!
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06-09-2007, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by keith4him
1. Someone called by God to that office
2. Consistent use of the Gift of prophecy, the body of Christ will recognize this.
3. Consistent accuracy in that gift, the criteria being edification, comfort and exhortation. They will be more on than off, but they will grow in their gifting. No conference preacher started in that level of authority or no teacher started at that level, but as the exercised their gifting the grew up their gift and became more mature and authoritative.
4. The openess to have their words tested and weighed ( I Cor. 14; I Thess. 5) |
good definition of a prophet in our day, in my opinion.
thank you.
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Apostolic in doctrine
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06-09-2007, 10:20 PM
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Superheros are evil...
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I'm shocked that "more on than off" is a good definition of a NT Prophet in anyone's book.
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For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! (Gal 5:13-15/ NKJV)
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06-09-2007, 10:23 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Originally Posted by Monkeyman
This has been something that CLC has done for years(at least early 90s if not late 80s). There has been more done for young men at this retreat then you will probably do in a hundred years...take your cheap backseat potshots elsewhere...blockhead
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I know one thing. The office of Prophet will never be printed on your cloak...
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06-09-2007, 10:25 PM
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Follower of Jesus
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Originally Posted by "GL"
I'm shocked that "more on than off" is a good definition of a NT Prophet in anyone's book.
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When you started teaching, did you know everything, I assume you didn't therefore under your definition of prophetic accuracy, you wouldn't be a good or accurate teacher. Or how about people who change what they teach, now mind you teacher is a gift of the spirit and draws from the same well as the prophet.
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06-09-2007, 10:33 PM
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Superheros are evil...
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Originally Posted by keith4him
When you started teaching, did you know everything, I assume you didn't therefore under your definition of prophetic accuracy, you wouldn't be a good or accurate teacher. Or how about people who change what they teach, now mind you teacher is a gift of the spirit and draws from the same well as the prophet.
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I think you miss the essence of the office of a prophet. It cannot and should not be compared to that of a teacher.
Teachers are generally teaching Word and scriptural principles. The prophet is declaring or revealing something directly from God, often outside of a textual reference. In that moment, he becomes God's direct voice to an individual or group.
God's voice doesn't miss.
Ever.
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For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! (Gal 5:13-15/ NKJV)
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06-09-2007, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by "GL"
I think you miss the essence of the office of a prophet. It cannot and should not be compared to that of a teacher.
Teachers are generally teaching Word and scriptural principles. The prophet is declaring or revealing something directly from God, often outside of a textual reference. In that moment, he becomes God's direct voice to an individual or group.
God's voice doesn't miss.
Ever.
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Amen!
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06-09-2007, 10:40 PM
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Follower of Jesus
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Originally Posted by "GL"
I think you miss the essence of the office of a prophet. It cannot and should not be compared to that of a teacher.
Teachers are generally teaching Word and scriptural principles. The prophet is declaring or revealing something directly from God, often outside of a textual reference. In that moment, he becomes God's direct voice to an individual or group.
God's voice doesn't miss.
Ever.
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God's voice never misses, but people miss God's voice, that is why in I Cor 14 the prophets judge. Note I Cor. 13 also says that prophecy is in part as well, and we see through the glass darkly...
Look at what the NT says about false teachers (which is the NT equivalent to the OT prophet)
2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
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06-09-2007, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by "GL"
I'm shocked that "more on than off" is a good definition of a NT Prophet in anyone's book.
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I meant to say there will be a track record of accurate words, in other words credibility.
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06-09-2007, 10:56 PM
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Superheros are evil...
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Originally Posted by keith4him
God's voice never misses, but people miss God's voice, that is why in I Cor 14 the prophets judge.... |
I would agree that prophesies need to be judged.
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Originally Posted by keith4him
...Note I Cor. 13 also says that prophecy is in part as well, and we see through the glass darkly.... |
So this means that the NT prophet only hears from God correctly part of the time and the remainder he is incorrect in his prophecies?
HUGE LEAP.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, my friend.
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For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another! (Gal 5:13-15/ NKJV)
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