You twist too many things for us to just answer anything you ask. Let's straighten out your misrepresentations first. You are lethal with twists. lol
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Saying that one does not consider what is deserving when one thinks of hell is to you a claim of not caring who is in hell.
Riiighhht.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
But progressive, moderate Muslims would explain some of their own scriptures in the same way and say they were not meant to be taken literally. The point is both Christianity and Islam can be practiced in an extreme fashion ....
Bingo, ILG. Furthermore, a common Christian ruse is to keep claiming that "context" somehow changes the moral meaning of genocide, fratricide, and killing of children. Sorry, but to the morally sensitive, there is probably NO context to justify some crimes--but we keep waiting to hear a good reason! So far, the OT "context" falls flat. Of course, the next favorite toggle is to claim, "God must have his reasons." In other words, if our god did it or said it, it's got to be correct, so lets not accept the REST OF humanity's (in this case superior) moral sense. Or yet another toggle--inventions--such as to claim, "The dead babies must have been spirited safely to the arms of God." This invented stuff does not appear anywhere close to the texts in question. But of course, if they can find a possible explanation based on some other scripture anywhere else in the bible, even if centuries later, that's fair game to the faith-filled mind. Whatever can bail the mind out of cognitive dissonance, no matter how wild or improbable, doesn't matter: gotta preserve personal faith, as well as the infallibility doctrine. It's that simple.
Of course, when Muslims or the Muslim god or the Muslim Messenger perform atrocities similar to the OT god, well, that's different, right? (Boo, hiss....)
Bingo, ILG. Furthermore, a common Christian ruse is to keep claiming that "context" somehow changes the moral meaning of genocide, fratricide, and killing of children. Sorry, but to the morally sensitive, there is probably NO context to justify some crimes--but we keep waiting to hear a good reason! So far, the OT "context" falls flat. Of course, the next favorite toggle is to claim, "God must have his reasons." In other words, if our god did it or said it, it's got to be correct, so lets not accept the REST OF humanity's (in this case superior) moral sense. Or yet another toggle--inventions--such as to claim, "The dead babies must have been spirited safely to the arms of God." This invented stuff does not appear anywhere close to the texts in question. But of course, if they can find a possible explanation based on some other scripture anywhere else in the bible, even if centuries later, that's fair game to the faith-filled mind. Whatever can bail the mind out of cognitive dissonance, no matter how wild or improbable, doesn't matter: gotta preserve personal faith, as well as the infallibility doctrine. It's that simple.
Of course, when Muslims or the Muslim god or the Muslim Messenger perform atrocities similar to the OT god, well, that's different, right? (Boo, hiss....)
So, today, the only wandering, conquesting, tribal nomads who are still beheading and beating women are not the Hebrews. Why is that?
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
Bingo, ILG. Furthermore, a common Christian ruse is to keep claiming that "context" somehow changes the moral meaning of genocide, fratricide, and killing of children. Sorry, but to the morally sensitive, there is probably NO context to justify some crimes--but we keep waiting to hear a good reason! So far, the OT "context" falls flat. Of course, the next favorite toggle is to claim, "God must have his reasons." In other words, if our god did it or said it, it's got to be correct, so lets not accept the REST OF humanity's (in this case superior) moral sense. Or yet another toggle--inventions--such as to claim, "The dead babies must have been spirited safely to the arms of God." This invented stuff does not appear anywhere close to the texts in question. But of course, if they can find a possible explanation based on some other scripture anywhere else in the bible, even if centuries later, that's fair game to the faith-filled mind. Whatever can bail the mind out of cognitive dissonance, no matter how wild or improbable, doesn't matter: gotta preserve personal faith, as well as the infallibility doctrine. It's that simple.
Of course, when Muslims or the Muslim god or the Muslim Messenger perform atrocities similar to the OT god, well, that's different, right? (Boo, hiss....)
You certainly cannot trust God like this, can you? More omniscience I see.
The fact remains that we who trust God see the results God said we would see in answering prayers and performing wonders and miracles and changing our lives. You can mock us for doing what the bible said all you like. It's a free forum, it seems. However, the miracles I have seen are real and prove that what He said in His word is true. Obviously you never saw such results. And the stipulation is that the adage "seeing is believing" will keep you from seeing. So , it remains a very personal thing that can only be proved to oneself. I cannot prove anything to you, since it was made in a way in which I see the proof for me.
If you say you tried it and it doesn't or didn't work, then I can only respond saying it did for me. And I am not lying when I say it worked for. What the Bible said would occur if we believe did occur with me!
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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