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05-08-2013, 06:12 AM
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
This only places a "huge accounting burden" on small businesses that decide they want to operate online. If they don't do online sales...they won't be bothered.
My take is simple. I enjoy NOT paying taxes when I do shop online occasionally. HOwever, that doesn't make it fair. If I go into a stor I have to pay taxes. Why shouldn't I pay them for shopping on line at a store. Further, it eliminates another of the unfair advantages online stores have over traditional storefronts. Physical stores have to pay all sorts of fees and taxes just to exist AND they have to charge sales taxes. Meanwhile, some slob in his pajamas can operate a "virtual store" online and not pay any of the normal fees and such the traditional store owner does. So he is already ahead. Then add that he has to charge no taxes and it is yet another advantage over the traditional store owner.
This may be a tax grab by the Fed, I don't doubnt it, but it also serves to help even the field a little so the traditional store owner isn't playing at an even greater handicap versus the online retailers.
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05-08-2013, 08:09 AM
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
Seems to me they would charge tax for their area since that is where the sale took place.
It will cause a loss of sales because I would not want to pay shipping in addition to taxes plus waiting for delivery, hoping it is not damaged in shipping.
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05-08-2013, 08:36 AM
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
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05-08-2013, 10:54 AM
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
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This only places a "huge accounting burden" on small businesses that decide they want to operate online. If they don't do online sales...they won't be bothered.
My take is simple. I enjoy NOT paying taxes when I do shop online occasionally. HOwever, that doesn't make it fair. If I go into a stor I have to pay taxes. Why shouldn't I pay them for shopping on line at a store. Further, it eliminates another of the unfair advantages online stores have over traditional storefronts. Physical stores have to pay all sorts of fees and taxes just to exist AND they have to charge sales taxes. Meanwhile, some slob in his pajamas can operate a "virtual store" online and not pay any of the normal fees and such the traditional store owner does. So he is already ahead. Then add that he has to charge no taxes and it is yet another advantage over the traditional store owner.
This may be a tax grab by the Fed, I don't doubnt it, but it also serves to help even the field a little so the traditional store owner isn't playing at an even greater handicap versus the online retailers.
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The largest realization of this bill is that EVERY state can perform a very costly audit on any on-line business in this country giving them the capability to put them out of business.
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
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05-08-2013, 11:34 AM
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
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The largest realization of this bill is that EVERY state can perform a very costly audit on any on-line business in this country giving them the capability to put them out of business.
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You can bet that Bloomberg is just itching for this to go through.
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05-08-2013, 11:38 AM
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05-08-2013, 12:15 PM
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
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My take is simple. I enjoy NOT paying taxes when I do shop online occasionally. HOwever, that doesn't make it fair. If I go into a stor I have to pay taxes. Why shouldn't I pay them for shopping on line at a store. Further, it eliminates another of the unfair advantages online stores have over traditional storefronts. Physical stores have to pay all sorts of fees and taxes just to exist AND they have to charge sales taxes. Meanwhile, some slob in his pajamas can operate a "virtual store" online and not pay any of the normal fees and such the traditional store owner does. So he is already ahead. Then add that he has to charge no taxes and it is yet another advantage over the traditional store owner.
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Do you have to pay shipping when you walk into a store? No. Meanwhile the "slob in his pajamas" has to deal with the cost of shipping, which can be higher than sales taxes. Not only the cost of shipping, but websites, virtual shopping carts, transaction fees, etc add to their cost. No, it's still not as expensive as a brick and mortar store, but the reason for doing online retail is to cut overhead, keep expenses down while making a profit. This alleged advantage the online store owner has over the traditional brick and mortar owner is a myth.
Look, this is America. The land where opportunity is available for anyone who wants to work. This "it's not fair" nonsense is ridiculous. The owners of physical stores have the same rights and opportunity as the "slob in his pajamas."
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05-08-2013, 01:10 PM
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
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Big Business and Big Government have been sleeping in the same bed for decades plus. This has nothing to do with revenue. No amount of revenue will ever pay off the debt...no amount of revenue will ever stop the government from spending well above the taxes they bring in. They just keep printing money...and use the "more revenue" as a ploy to raise taxes, so they can keep people down. They want a society that solely relies on government to supply their needs...Power and control.
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It has nothing to do with revenue? Seriously? For months Dems and Reps have been wrangling over how to deal with the national debt and pay for things like Obama Care. They bantered around the idea of raising taxes, not renewing the Bush tax cuts and cutting spending across the board.
Of course this is about tax revenue. Like I said before, California already passed a law like this so they can reap in millions in taxes
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05-08-2013, 01:12 PM
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Re: Internet Sales Tax Passes - Senate Vote Count
BTW the bill does not affect small businesses that do less than 1mill in sales a year
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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