I never realized this, but apparently the NT was originally in Hebrew? This Rabbi says that all your NT translations (OT, too, for that matter) are almost completely illegible,
having been translated by a non-Hebrew. Hmm.
Then you contradict yourself... you earlier said our greatest need was acceptance... love is not acceptance.... you spoke of praise, accalades and encouragement.... love is not always encouragement and accalades and "atta boys".....
The fact is, that you used your words very loosely, and should have never said Our Greatest Need is acceptance..... Our Greatest Need is Salvation/Righteousness.
You need to work on your reading retention. You can't find anywhere in the opening post the words "our greatest need is acceptance". I said it's something we all long for and yearn for. And that yearning is rooted in our need for perfect, true and unconditional love. And as I quote Keller he leads to the conclusion that the only person who can love us that way is one who doesn't need us. His conclusion is that only Jesus can love us that way because He doesn't need us.
Jesus is salvation. Jesus is the righteousness of God. There's no contradiction to what I said, you're just quick to argue because you like to hear yourself talk. You build a straw man and tear him apart. You're arguing against things I didn't say.
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
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Then you must see Jesus as a legalist. He said it Not me.
Look, Captain Ahab, if you want to believe in a harsh, cruel, taskmaster Jesus, that's your prerogative, but you're not going to see too many people drawn to that kind of Jesus---one that's a false Christ.
The early church had no New Testament written to overanalyze and parse and micromanage. They had the blood of the Lamb and the word of their testimony. And they overcame the forces of darkness. And when legalism rose up in the early church the stamped it our quickly (see Acts 15). Paul destroys the legalists in Galatians and throughout his Epistles.
Jesus narrowed all of the scriptures down to LOVE the Lord your God, LOVE your neighbor, LOVE one another...
It's the law of the Spirit and the law of love...
You can have your never ending rules and regulations and dead religion...
I'll take Christ and Him crucified...
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
This is not Biblical. Where in scripture are we told that God loves everybody radically and unconditionally?
The article
This reveals the delusion. Teaching that Jesus loves and ACCEPTS us without condition. Anyone know a place where Jesus told anyone HE loves them and ACCEPTS them without conditions? This doctrine has ruined the faith of many and still is hard at work to portray another Jesus than the one the apostles presented.
"For God so LOVED THE WORLD that Je gave His only begotten Son..." John 3:16
Does that passage ring a bell?
"But God demonstrates HIS LOVE for US, in that WHILE WE WERE YET SINNERS Christ died for US." Romans 5:8
"Greater love has no man than this, that a man would lay down his life for his friends" John 15
"For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 8:38-39
"Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal. 2..And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. 3..And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned,[a] but have not love, it profits me nothing." -I Corinthians 13:1-3
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
My greatest need right now is a subscription on Time magazine.
You have some really important needs if this is true, and it isn't a Time magazine...
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When a newspaper posed the question, "What's Wrong with the World?" G. K. Chesterton reputedly wrote a brief letter in response: "Dear Sirs: I am. Sincerely Yours, G. K. Chesterton." That is the attitude of someone who has grasped the message of Jesus.
You need to work on your reading retention. You can't find anywhere in the opening post the words "our greatest need is acceptance". I said it's something we all long for and yearn for. And that yearning is rooted in our need for perfect, true and unconditional love. And as I quote Keller he leads to the conclusion that the only person who can love us that way is one who doesn't need us. His conclusion is that only Jesus can love us that way because He doesn't need us.
Jesus is salvation. Jesus is the righteousness of God. There's no contradiction to what I said, you're just quick to argue because you like to hear yourself talk. You build a straw man and tear him apart. You're arguing against things I didn't say.
Our greatest need is Righteousness.... unconditional love alone will not get someone into heaven... there are people in hell today that are loved unconditionally by the Lord.... but they are still in Hell. It is only through righteousness, obtained through the shed blood of Calvary that one can enter into eternal life. The love may be a venue, or a mechanism of bringing it about... but the love is not what is needed ultimately.
Jesus didn't condemn first, except for the self righteous religious folks. Because they perverted the truth.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
allowing girls to play sports just promotes them to embrace masculine activities, mannerisms and behavior. We should be teaching our young ladies to be feminine and act like women.... not trying to make them think they are somehow equal with boys.
I couldn't let this pass. I do teach my daughter that she is equal. Where on earth do you get the idea that girls are not equal to boys? It seems I was blessed that while growing up in the UPC, I was not taught that I was less than because I was female, and was encouraged to go to college. I'm appalled that that isn't the case everywhere.
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