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Old 02-05-2012, 11:18 PM
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Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Study

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jf - the answer to your question is yes.
I have had this discussion with numerous black friends who voted for Obama and the overall answer is yes, they voted for him because he was black.
Now, I do understand this.
I have spent a large portion of my life as a minority, because of my work and church environments.
So, I do understand this.
What I also understand and have been able to get my friends to admit, is that this is just as racist as a white person voting for a white candidate just because he is white.
The amazing thing is that when you walk down BHO's positions, almost all of them are the opposite of what my friends believe.
That is what generates them to think outside of the race issue.
When they see this it is almost like a light bulb going off.


You will not get the satisfaction of me admitting such garbage.

First of all, I don't think like that and many blacks don't.

Second of all, check the atitudes of your black friends. You will find there is no malice or hate towards the white Democrat option (Clinton). American history shows that the racism that permeated our society was grounded in racial hatred and racial superioroty.



So it's a different mindset all together, different circumstances, different history, different roots if you want to try to have a conversation about the prejudice of some blacks towards whites and the violent hatred of some whites towards blacks in America.


The blacks that many whites think have a problem with whites in general will tell you that they would LOVE if Bill Clinton could be President again. They think EMINEM is one of the best Rappers in the field. They only have a problem with the whites they think have a problem with them based off of their skin color.


Still, there are those who would try to make race and politics in America so simple-- leading one to think that MAYBE there could be some truth to the study for some conservatives.
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Old 02-05-2012, 11:43 PM
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How was he more in touch?
Well if a person is willing to VOLUNTEER their time to help make life better for other people, then I think he or she would be more in touch with people than a person who didn't do that.
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:22 AM
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That's it?
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:24 AM
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I'm curious what did he volunteer to do? Or with what group?
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Old 02-06-2012, 12:35 AM
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What was biggest upside that got him the nomination?
His biggest upside was the fact that John McCain was too much of a nice guy. McCain almost never spoke about Obama's record or baggage (most pro-abortion/death candidates in the history of our nation for one). He also refused to address the legitimate problems of Obama's past association with unrepentant domestic terrorists, as well as with well known racists such as Louis Farahakhan and Jeremiah Wright.

Further John McCain tied the hands of his greatest asset and barely let her do much independent speaking, and set her up with very hostile interviewers who edited her comments to make her look like an idiot.

Because of all of these things, I would say that Obama's greatest upside in the '08 campaign was John McCain.

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One thing he didn't have was a whole lot of LEGITIMATE baggage, so his "lack of experience" was attacked.

Funny thing is, people complain all the time about how politicians are so out of touch when Obama (as a community volunteer) was more in touch with everyday Americans than any other national politician to come along in a LONG time.

His lack of a political pedigree, his demeanor, and his youth were huge upsides for him.


But I think Obama's BIGGEST upside (which helped him the most in getting elected) was the GWB Administration-- and I actually like GWB and I think he was sincere but he had wicked advisors.

Actually, I understand what you are saying, however I disagree with you. He did tap the anger with GWB with great effectiveness. However, he won a by a very small margin. There were no fewer than 3 states that he one by less than 2% of the vote. Had those three flipped for John McCain it is possible that he would have been the President.

Obama had a fantastic way of saying nothing when giving speeches (I know because I paid very close attention during the primaries and general elections). He was also given a major pass on the issues of Bill Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, and others with a radical racist, anti-Christian, anti-American, socialist/communist agenda.

He is a supporter of infanticide (not ever mentioned by the media), late term abortions, etc. His record on the issue of abortion during his time in the Illinois legislature was nothing short of appalling. He voted against bills that would have allowed babies who had survived an attempted abortion to receive medical care and attention. It is a fact that such children in Illinois are placed in closets, back rooms, etc. and are left alone to cry themselves to death. This is what Obama has supported in the past.

Further, if there was a bill that he felt was too sticky, he would not take a stand one way or another. Instead he would only vote 'present'.

All of these are legitimate issues that were never addressed during the campaign, because John McCain was gutless, and the media was behind him.
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Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Study

I didn't realize this thread was about politics! lol
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Old 02-06-2012, 01:13 PM
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You will not get the satisfaction of me admitting such garbage.

First of all, I don't think like that and many blacks don't.

Second of all, check the atitudes of your black friends. You will find there is no malice or hate towards the white Democrat option (Clinton). American history shows that the racism that permeated our society was grounded in racial hatred and racial superioroty.



So it's a different mindset all together, different circumstances, different history, different roots if you want to try to have a conversation about the prejudice of some blacks towards whites and the violent hatred of some whites towards blacks in America.


The blacks that many whites think have a problem with whites in general will tell you that they would LOVE if Bill Clinton could be President again. They think EMINEM is one of the best Rappers in the field. They only have a problem with the whites they think have a problem with them based off of their skin color.


Still, there are those who would try to make race and politics in America so simple-- leading one to think that MAYBE there could be some truth to the study for some conservatives.
JD - none of these individuals would I regard as racist. All of them were so caught up in the excitement of a black president, that this overpowered everything else. Including the policies of the candidate.
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JD - none of these individuals would I regard as racist. All of them were so caught up in the excitement of a black president, that this overpowered everything else. Including the policies of the candidate.
Many didn't even know his policies or what he stood for. They were over joyed a black, even though just half, had a chance to make it in. Remember when they went to black areas interviewing them how they liked his policies but they were actually using Mccain policies. They were all for him. Amazing.
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Re: Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Study

liberals have to receive a higher IQ to show how they have less reasons to deny that God is real.
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