Bob Larson, "The Real Exorcist"

[TRFrance]

Gentlemen, please.

I cant believe the two of you guys are butting heads over what's the best way to cast out a demon.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams

Amen! I've used that very line(with a "In the Name of Jesus Christ" at the end) and it works! Didn't have to make him repent of some hidden sin first though.

Did not have time?

You missed it. Jesus stopped the theatrics and even so much as the discussion with the spirit.

Hey, I believe you've done it. No big deal. But three times is not hardly enough to be an expert and say what and what not can occur and say who has and who has not ministered it. And all I am saying is stop the fight and teach repentance, and you do not need twenty men to hold a guy down.

[Ev. Duane Williams]

My only beef is with your theory that if a demoniac acts violently, it means that I and my Brothers and Sisters in the congregation are more akin to the sons of Sceva than to the Lord's disciples. We're not perfect, but we're not pretenders.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Margies3

Is this the same Bob Larson who used to be on the radio in the early 80's, late 70's? If so, he used to talk all the time about things like Free Masons being sinful. He also wrote a book about churches and organizations that he considered to be - oh shoot, what's the word? It means way off base, anti-Christian???? Rats! Wish I could think of the word. Anyhow, he listed a whole bunch of churches that he said fit this catagory, including Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses and THE UNITED PENTECOSTAL CHURCH.

I had listened to him occasionally up to that point. But once I read that book, I've never listened to him since then.

Are you asking us, or telling us? Did he say this about the UPC, or no?

Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams

Okay, point taken. I can't see the video here at work, I've just seen others very quickly on a documentary about possession. Like I said, maybe they are good actors. The nose twitch thing sounds a bit ignorant. The fact that he calls UPC'ers heretics seals the deal. He's a fake, got it.

In fairness, I don't think we know for a fact that he said this. The suggestion has been made that he said it, but nothing solid has been shown that he actually did say this.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams

My only beef is with your theory that if a demoniac acts violently, it means that I and my Brothers and Sisters in the congregation are more akin to the sons of Sceva than to the Lord's disciples. We're not perfect, but we're not pretenders.

Why draw this out? lol No one is perfect and we can all learn a little more about something. I just noted that we do not have to fight like you folks did. That's all. lol

I do not have a theory that you folks are pretenders, since that is not the issue. Please hear this this time. It's a fact that we can shut the devil down and command it to hold its peace. Having the person repent is factually of utmost help in avoiding a fight with twenty Christians to one possessed person, and that fighting is more akin to the pretenders.

I believe you finally succeeded. But when our experience is more akin to those who were not knowledgeable, compared to the words of Paul alone without twenty disciples fighting with him, there is something to learn about it. That's all.

[Ev. Duane Williams]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Did not have time?

You missed it. Jesus stopped the theatrics and even so much as the discussion with the spirit.

Hey, I believe you've done it. No big deal. But three times is not hardly enough to be an expert and say what and what not can occur and say who has and who has not ministered it. And all I am saying is stop the fight and teach repentance, and you do not need twenty men to hold a guy down.

We didn't hold him down, we were praying for him, laying our hands on him for migraines when he erupted into fits. No one went into it thinking about exorcism, it just happened that way.

Three times with the real thing. I've witnessed fakery more times than I care to count, with preachers taken in hook, line and sinker.

I am relatively young, but I have a Pastor who has been in the Ministry for over thirty years and a Bishop who has been preaching for over sixty. They both confirm the telltale signs I have mentioned.

[Ev. Duane Williams]

Gotta go. Preterism(in any form) is a doctrine of devils. You might want to deal with that before trying to cast any out!!!

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Ev. Duane Williams

Gotta go. Preterism(in any form) is a doctrine of devils. You might want to deal with that before trying to cast any out!!!

Cheap shot. Let's be adults.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Amen!

If Bob Larson is casting out devils, then amen!

And if Bob Larson is just enjoying the attention and making some extra cash by fooling people or preying on the weak minded, shame on him.

[nahkoe]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Are you asking us, or telling us? Did he say this about the UPC, or no?


In fairness, I don't think we know for a fact that he said this. The suggestion has been made that he said it, but nothing solid has been shown that he actually did say this.

Eh, I can't find anything in google that specifically connects him to the comment (in a few minute search at least). But I found some things that definitely don't improve my opinion of him. I wouldn't be too surprised if he had included the UPC in his cult list. I'm not interested in spending the money on his book to find out though.