Bill Clinton Loses Temper, Lashes Out at Pro-Lifer

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by StMark

wouldn't anyone else love to know what the Mangun's think of all this?

Yeah me too. But perhaps we can field some questions here...

I would like to know what StMark thinks of all this. How do you reconcile supporting a pro-abortion rights advocate for President?

[KarenJo]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Yeah me too. But perhaps we can field some questions here...

I would like to know what StMark thinks of all this. How do you reconcile supporting a pro-abortion rights advocate for President?

I don't know what Anthony supported re politics...but I remember when Clinton was President and went to Messiah, he made the statement that Anthony didn't agree with all his politics and policy but that he (Anthony) was just his friend.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Yeah me too. But perhaps we can field some questions here...

I would like to know what StMark thinks of all this. How do you reconcile supporting a pro-abortion rights advocate for President?

The support is waning.
I'm anti abortion by the way

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by StMark

The support is waning.
I'm anti abortion by the way

He is looking our way FOLKS!!!!

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by scotty

And we can throw tomatoes at the weather man...

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That was good. I like that one. If you have any tomatoes, I'd be glad to throw a few with you.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

That is terrible, 18,000 a year... We do need to talk about how we can provide humanitarian aid to those who cannot care for themselves - whether it's here or in Africa. However, in the US there are more victims of infanticide weekly than the annual number you say die of substandard healthcare.

True. I feel we need to secure the well being of Americans before focusing on other countries. Yes, I believe in America first and unashamedly. With abortion I believe we can work together to reduce the abortion rate. And once the abortion rate is significantly reduced, I believe we will be more successful implementing common sense restrictions. We have to put women first and address the issues they face.

[ChristopherHall]

Here's an ethical issue I've personally struggled with and maybe mentioned once or twice. Shopping at WalMart. China forces women to have abortions as a policy. Is it unethical to by "Made In China" in a retailer that provides a significant amount of resources to the Chinese economy? Since they're Communist, is this the same as feeding their government with revenues? I kinda feel this question is like asking if it would be ok to buy "Made in Germany" while the ovens and gas chambers were in operation.

I just feel uneasy while leaving the store. What are your thoughts?

[RandyWayne]

As has already been mentioned, the current thing that most pro-lifers are demanding -a completely and utter illegalization of all abortion, is simply not going to happen. And to make matters worse, there is a large percentage that would not even be satisfied with that. Rather they would also demand that all forms of birth control also be made illegal.
You can march in the streets protesting all you want, and if that makes you feel like you are making a difference, then just go on doing what your doing. (And showing up for protests DOES make a difference. A very small one, but every bit helps.) But if you REALLY want to help, invite an unwed mother into your home.... or think about holding off on having your own biological children, and adopt one. Where are the apostolic crisis pregnancy centers? I fear most unwed mothers are still wearing that big scarlet letter on their front shirt in the eyes of the church.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Scotty, I am sorry if the posts stir personal emotions for you. My intent is not to inflame or incite personally, but it does seem society has neatly packaged abortion as "terminating the pregnancy" to hide the horrific nature of the sin.

Here's something we don't really talk much about and it is very disturbing to me and certainly will be to others here. But where is the responsibility of the young men involved? For example let's say two unmarried people are having relations and the woman becomes pregnant and chooses abortion. Since they are not married, and it took the two of them to bring forth the unplanned pregnancy, are they not both responsible for the abortion in a sense? For the abortion wouldn't have taken place if either one of them exercised moral judgment.

We're vocal against the women involved and the doctors involved. But isn't there some responsibility on the shoulders of the young men in these circumstances?

Just an honest question bros. Thank God for the blood. Thank God for the blood.

[ChristopherHall]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

As has already been mentioned, the current thing that most pro-lifers are demanding -a completely and utter illegalization of all abortion, is simply not going to happen. And to make matters worse, there is a large percentage that would not even be satisfied with that. Rather they would also demand that all forms of birth control also be made illegal.
You can march in the streets protesting all you want, and if that makes you feel like you are making a difference, then just go on doing what your doing. (And showing up for protests DOES make a difference. A very small one, but every bit helps.) But if you REALLY want to help, invite an unwed mother into your home.... or think about holding off on having your own biological children, and adopt one. Where are the apostolic crisis pregnancy centers? I fear most unwed mothers are still wearing that big scarlet letter on their front shirt in the eyes of the church.

That is the most powerful post I've read on this subject. Amen and Amen.