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Old 02-02-2008, 09:40 AM
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Re: Shaved to be saved

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Ok sorry folks,I just have limited time here.SoI will try to be brief.This first remark is for the so called heavenly one.You dont know nothing about me.So Jezebel stick to the shadows ok.
''Micheal the disciple'' thank you for for your keen observations and wisdom here.I just hope that You are not a trinitarain.Now for the ones that want an answer.
Heres the answers to the pharisee question.
[1]There is no scripture that states that a man should cut his facial hair.
[2]Only Pharisees will put an limitation to how long a man should grow his facial hair.
[3]There is no scripture that states how long a man should grow facial hair.So the question that was raised by the pharisee is irrelevant.How long should someone allow his facial hair should grow?, is an ignorant question.Yet here this ignorant question has been
adressed.
Now rather I shave or not is a personal choice.It is not a slavational issue.It is not I that makes it so.It is those of the United Pharisee Church does.
I believe in Holiness and modesty,it is just sad that what I have seen from some here that they dont.
Those churches that put standards on man to shave,they are not conservatives they are Pharisees and thus not Apostolics.
Having facia lhair is all about being happy with the way God made you.If you cant grow facial hair then this is not an issue.Yet if you can grow facia hair ,then you have shaven off something that God put there.Thus you are changing the art work God has done.
Folks be happy with the way God made you ,that is all that am trying to get you pharisees to see.
If one grows a beard he can still be saved.You pharisees need to repent of your wickedness toward us that do grow facial hair.How long it grows doesnt matter.God is our judge on that ,not you.
So I see that I am getting no where with this,so I am dropping this matter, I have told you truth so this has made me an enemy to pharisees.
Alogi, I've reported your posts, for the simple fact that you called HO a Jezebel, Michael the Disciple a trinitarian, and you called anyone who requires a man to be clean shaven a Pharisee.
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Old 02-02-2008, 09:45 AM
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Alogi, I've reported your posts, for the simple fact that you called HO a Jezebel, Michael the Disciple a trinitarian, and you called anyone who requires a man to be clean shaven a Pharisee.
Thanks for reporting this Mike-
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Old 02-02-2008, 10:19 AM
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Thanks for reporting this Mike-
No problem Jeanie.

I have a real problem with people who extend their personal viewpoints, and then when asked to explain them, either run away, imply that people who question them are stupid, or worse yet, resort to name calling.

If I, or anyone else on this forum, wants to make a claim concerning their viewpoint of scripture, or personal convictions, they should be able to back up their claims with scripture, or at least common sense.

There are three ways to respond when questioned:

1.) Either back your premise with scripture or common sense;
2.) Tell people this this is just your personal conviction, and it's not necessarily what you feel everyone should do;
3.) Re-evaluate your viewpoint when faced with opposing views.

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Old 02-02-2008, 11:54 AM
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Re: Shaved to be saved

Wow hard to believe the reaction here. Think about it for a minute. People can be patient, kind, and longsuffering to Preachers that preach the unscriptural doctrine that men will either be lost or they are not holy enough to sit with the Holiness people on the platform YET.....

When someone like Alogi registers a complaint about it HE is the bad guy. Yes he probably needs to learn his internet forum manners HOWEVER he has made a perfectly valid point.

Instead of being upset with the Preachers who have fostered this heresy and turned many thousands of good men AWAY FROM ONENESS this man is reported as if he has done some great evil.

I dont know him. I may disagree with him on EVERYTHING else. But my time among Oneness Churches confirms what he said. To the point of if one had a Beard he was full of devils!

No one can tell me this is RARE. I was an Elder in the Church. I saw the Evangelists come through and preach it. I saw the Pastor jump on the bandwagon.

And in visiting other Churches I saw the same thing. Yes I know that now the PEOPLE are getting set free from this doctrine. But the Churches in my area still preach the "platform standards" thing. And even on this board where most know this doctrine to be false I would almost bet that many if not most of your Pastors still hold to this.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:36 PM
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Re: Shaved to be saved

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Wow hard to believe the reaction here. Think about it for a minute. People can be patient, kind, and longsuffering to Preachers that preach the unscriptural doctrine that men will either be lost or they are not holy enough to sit with the Holiness people on the platform YET.....

When someone like Alogi registers a complaint about it HE is the bad guy. Yes he probably needs to learn his internet forum manners HOWEVER he has made a perfectly valid point.

Instead of being upset with the Preachers who have fostered this heresy and turned many thousands of good men AWAY FROM ONENESS this man is reported as if he has done some great evil.

I dont know him. I may disagree with him on EVERYTHING else. But my time among Oneness Churches confirms what he said. To the point of if one had a Beard he was full of devils!

No one can tell me this is RARE. I was an Elder in the Church. I saw the Evangelists come through and preach it. I saw the Pastor jump on the bandwagon.

And in visiting other Churches I saw the same thing. Yes I know that now the PEOPLE are getting set free from this doctrine. But the Churches in my area still preach the "platform standards" thing. And even on this board where most know this doctrine to be false I would almost bet that many if not most of your Pastors still hold to this.
No one reported the post because of Alogi's viewpoint, but simply because this forum has a policy of "no name calling", and apparently Alogi overlooked that.
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:36 PM
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Ok sorry folks,I just have limited time here.SoI will try to be brief.This first remark is for the so called heavenly one.You dont know nothing about me.So Jezebel stick to the shadows ok.
LOL!

Yer just upset cause I figured you out!

Don't cry. Others have gotten over it!
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:38 PM
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Michael, that isn't true. At least, they don't preach that you'll be lost for having facial hair. There are a lot of churches that have a cleanshaven guideline, but in all my years of growing up in the church, I can't recall a single sermon where the minister said, "Shave or you'll be lost."
I have!! LOL!

The pastor I was raised under taught that men with facial hair would split hell wide open!

Another pastor I had told my husband this his facial hair made him look like a trinitarian. I wish he'd asked the pastor what Jesus looked like with His on!
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:42 PM
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What some of you are not understanding is that Alogi's only intention for being on this forum under this name is to stir the pot, and you all are buying it.....LOL!

He's done this before (sorry to steal your fun here, friend). I'm not offended by his calling me a Jez because we are buds.
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But thanks to my buddy, Michael, for looking out for me. I appreciate you!
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But thanks to my buddy, Michael, for looking out for me. I appreciate you!
Probably the only friend you do have, I'm thinking.

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