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Old 05-21-2007, 07:44 PM
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Riiiiiiight....

I also heard that Xenu was cast down into a volcano where he was blown up by an atom bomb and became fragmented into two people. Hence all of our sorrows knew their beginnings there that continue unto this day.

Actually, you can hear almost any crazy stuff in the name of religion that you can think of. You'd go nuts believing any of it.
come on stange, what you mentioned was never taught
- you've never heard of this teaching ? as long as you've been around ??
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Old 05-21-2007, 07:46 PM
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Again are you saying the city in Rev. 21 is the church today???????????????
Bro, when you kindly answer me and deal with these very very obvious scriptures then I will open my bible to the verse you are wanting to look at and deal with it, Can you please show me using grammar HOW the verses I posted are saying the exact opposite of what we are all claiming it says?

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Old 05-21-2007, 07:50 PM
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Bro, when you kindly answer me and deal with these very very obvious scriptures then I will open my bible to the verse you are wanting to look at and deal with it, Can you please show me using grammar HOW the verses I posted are saying the exact opposite of what we are all claiming it says?

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Prax I gave you all I have. It just seems logical to me if I am going to see you I have to go where you are. I think this is what is being said here. I believe the city is a literal city the Bride will live in. But are you going to answer my question is the city of Rev. 21 the church today?
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Satan before he fell was clothed with jewels and PRIDE caused him to fall. Thus jewelry and idolatry are linked many times in the OT.

So what are your thoughts are this particular teaching ?
i know you've heard it - is it something you believe ?
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Who? I must have missed that story.
That is the doctrine of Scientology. I know of very little of it. I just mentioned it to say, you can hear almost anything.
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Prax I gave you all I have. It just seems logical to me if I am going to see you I have to go where you are. I think this is what is being said here. I believe the city is a literal city the Bride will live in. But are you going to answer my question is the city of Rev. 21 the church today?
Brother, Im not trying to pull your teeth here lol..if you just don't have any way of refuting the hard clear grammatical evidence of these verses that show the bride is that holy city, then Im not sure what it matters what else you bring up. These verses stand unrefuted
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come on stange, what you mentioned was never taught
- you've never heard of this teaching ? as long as you've been around ??
Thad the passage is Ezk 28:12-19
It speaks of all the precious stones that were his covering then it says his heart was lifted up BECAUSE OF THY BEAUTY!

Thus jewelry and pride are partners in the original sin.
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Brother, Im not trying to pull your teeth here lol..if you just don't have any way of refuting the hard clear grammatical evidence of these verses that show the bride is that holy city, then Im not sure what it matters what else you bring up. These verses stand unrefuted
Prax I think you see the trap you place yourself into by saying the city is the church thus you are hedging. At least I am NOT hedging. Might not agree but I did answer.
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Prax I gave you all I have. It just seems logical to me if I am going to see you I have to go where you are. I think this is what is being said here. I believe the city is a literal city the Bride will live in. But are you going to answer my question is the city of Rev. 21 the church today?
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Brother...that clearly shows the the Bride is the city and that the city is the bride. What more proof do you need?

Whether or not the city is the church? Does it say it is? And if it is....the how do you escape the fact that the church is adorned with ungodly, evil jewelry?
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Prax I think you see the trap you place yourself into by saying the city is the church thus you are hedging. At least I am NOT hedging. Might not agree but I did answer.
I never said the city is the church, lol. And yes you did hedge by not answering my request to show HOW the city is not the bride
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