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Old 04-15-2016, 03:23 PM
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Re: No prosecution for Trump's campaign manager

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They are frauds to actual conservatism. It has been an amazing year to watch the down spiral.
Perhaps you have very narrow view as to what conservatism is. Someone out there might say you are not a true conservative.
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Old 04-15-2016, 03:33 PM
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Saying, "I am going to punch him in the face" is a threat. Saying, "I'd like to punch him in the face" is not a threat.
Go tell a cop you'd like to punch him in the face and see what happens. In fact, tweet that to obama's twitter account and tell me when the men in suits come to talk with you.
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Perhaps you have very narrow view as to what conservatism is. Someone out there might say you are not a true conservative.

Trump isn't close to anything written here.

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Old 04-15-2016, 04:21 PM
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Trump isn't close to anything written here.
Being a conservative in an American political sense has nothing to do with religion. There are both religious and non-religious conservatives.
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Old 04-15-2016, 04:22 PM
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Go tell a cop you'd like to punch him in the face and see what happens. In fact, tweet that to obama's twitter account and tell me when the men in suits come to talk with you.
Apples and oranges.
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Apples and oranges.
Oh but of course.

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Being a conservative in an American political sense has nothing to do with religion. There are both religious and non-religious conservatives.
Once again, because you didn't bother to read it. No wonder you endorse Donald Trump. You haven't read the fine print.

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Ninth, the conservative perceives the need for prudent restraints upon power and upon human passions. Politically speaking, power is the ability to do as one likes, regardless of the wills of one’s fellows. A state in which an individual or a small group are able to dominate the wills of their fellows without check is a despotism, whether it is called monarchical or aristocratic or democratic. When every person claims to be a power unto himself, then society falls into anarchy. Anarchy never lasts long, being intolerable for everyone, and contrary to the ineluctable fact that some persons are more strong and more clever than their neighbors. To anarchy there succeeds tyranny or oligarchy, in which power is monopolized by a very few.

The conservative endeavors to so limit and balance political power that anarchy or tyranny may not arise. In every age, nevertheless, men and women are tempted to overthrow the limitations upon power, for the sake of some fancied temporary advantage. It is characteristic of the radical that he thinks of power as a force for good—so long as the power falls into his hands. In the name of liberty, the French and Russian revolutionaries abolished the old restraints upon power; but power cannot be abolished; it always finds its way into someone’s hands. That power which the revolutionaries had thought oppressive in the hands of the old regime became many times as tyrannical in the hands of the radical new masters of the state.

Knowing human nature for a mixture of good and evil, the conservative does not put his trust in mere benevolence. Constitutional restrictions, political checks and balances, adequate enforcement of the laws, the old intricate web of restraints upon will and appetite—these the conservative approves as instruments of freedom and order. A just government maintains a healthy tension between the claims of authority and the claims of liberty.


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Old 04-15-2016, 09:32 PM
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Once again, because you didn't bother to read it. No wonder you endorse Donald Trump. You haven't read the fine print.
So unless one follows this list of rules you shared, they are not a conservative?
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