Exactly, its an act. Some folks got the church confused with the WWE.
LOL I Laughed.
In all honesty, I would have to consider what he was actually preaching on.
The message where the preacher was getting on pews or the backs of pews was preaching on reaching a new level in Christ. Using action to display a though.
Not to just get on top of the pulpit just to do it, or for shock value, I can understand how that is uncalled for.
But let me say this: "If you stand on the pulpit, you better have the camel knees to go with it".
How is standing on top of the pulpit getting the point across??!!!
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In all honesty, I would have to consider what he was actually preaching on.
You don't think standing on the pulpit would make the point?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNCoevpt5TE
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Shock jock preaching. When grace and anointing are lacking preachers need to move into being performers and entertainers.
BULLS-EYE!!!
I don't think this goes ONLY for standing in the pulpit but for so many of the anticsused in preaching today. I've heard of ministers being taught to button their coat and unbutton their coat, to bring the mic near to the mouth, and to move it away for effect. I particulary can't stand it when a preacher makes a point and throws his arms out to the side as if "I just made a great point" and most of the times I've seen it the point wasn't even impressive, but just the some old pentecostal phrases, sometimes with a slightly different twist.
In general I really hate "antics". I can live with someone personality, in fact I prefer it, be real. But in the midst of all your being real, also excercise some self control, we are ambassadors for Christ, and (if we're doing his work) there SHOULD be visitors in the congregation. No one would start shouting and stand on a pulpit during a wedding or funeral. No one asked to speak at an presidential inaugeration or any time of respectable event would act like this.
I find no Biblical precedent, no place where a true man of God ever in any way glorified himself for his preaching, or drew people away after him. I think it is disgusting to preach for a response, and that is 90% of preaching in the oneness movement, and about 99 percent of conference preaching.
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"Resolved: That all men should live to the glory of God. Resolved, secondly: That whether or not anyone else does, I will." ~Jonathan Edwards
"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
Your point would be valid only if the preacher doing the professional wrestling like antics proclaimed "the Word of the Lord came to me saying "Stand thou upon the pulpit."
I have seen a preacher stand on top of the pulpit, and I thought it was lame. I wonder has anyone seen a preacher fall off while standing on a pulpit?
Now that would be worth going to church for!
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Maybe his message was, "How to successfully balance while standing on a pulpit"
Possibly, it certainly wasn't the gospel.
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"The only man who has the right to say he is justified by grace alone is the man who has left all to follow Christ." ~Dietrich Bonheoffer, The Cost of Discipleship
"Preachers who should be fishing for men are now too often fishing for compliments from men." ~Leonard Ravenhill
I don't think it helps get the point across. Some men are wild and crazy, and I'm not going to discount their ministries or messages just because I don't like their style. My girls love the wild and crazy stuff--most teenagers do. Not my cup of tea, but I really don't care if they're into it.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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Maybe his message was, "How to successfully balance while standing on a pulpit"
Maybe he's a secret gymnast.
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My girls love the wild and crazy stuff--most teenagers do. Not my cup of tea, but I really don't care if they're into it.
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