THANK GOD 4 Bush Policy of Enhanced Interrogation

[Light]

Originally Posted by coadie

The first thing Christians such as my self do is we vote against the most pro abortion President evah.
If you says they are against abortion, then they show it at the voting booth.

In God's eyes, 46 million dead babies are no different than 3,000 dead at the World Trade center.

Hypocrits claim to oppose abortion by their lips and secretly vote for it at the polls.

Hypocrits oppose waterboarding and celebrate killing Osama who was located by info from waterboarding.

Your all mouth.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Light

You're all mouth.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Light

Your all mouth.

Lets break that down. All mouth. Democrats that claim to oppose abortion and do so with great noise and bluster and vote for the most pro abortion Pres evah.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Light

That very thought crosses my mind every time I respond to right wing nuts.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Do you think World War II was a success? Of course it was! Do you think that was conducted without mistakes along the way? The Battle of the Bulge was the result of a huge failure on our part to anticipate Hitler's build up of troops and material for a winter offensive. Thousands more of Americans died as a result, including my dad's oldest brother.

Pat Tillman? American soldiers get killed by friendly fire in every war we fight.

You Bush bashers don't get it. EVERYONE belived there were WMDs. E-V-E-R-Y-O-N-E. Bill and Hillary believed it. John Kerry. Most Democrats. France. England. Russia. Germany. A host of other nations. The head of the UN Inspection Teams. EVERYONE. So the cry about WMDs rings hollow. It was an intelligence failure. Not a conspiracy. Not a made up story to go to war. Bush was given broad bipartisan approval to attack Iraq. We took out a bloodthirsty dictator who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own people.

When Mission Accomplished was declared, the mission of defeating the Iraqi Army and removing Saddam from power was completed. The ensuing insurgency from homegrown militias and civilians and religious groups was a result of the occupation. Let's help you understand the difference: when France surrendered to Hitler, the Germans conducted a victory parade down the streets of Paris. The Germans declared victory. The French Resistance continued fighting until the Nazis were gone. But no one---NO ONE would ever say that Hitler did not defeat France. Its a fact of history. WE DEFEATED HUSSEIN and the IRAQI ARMY-------MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! And finally, its looking more and more like a worthwhile struggle. Millions of Iraqis enjoy freedom like never before. The fear of mass murder and mass graves is gone. Arab countries all over the Middle East are seeing their people rising up to take ahold of freedom. Ghadafi is on the run. Assad is in trouble. Brutal dictators are being served notice that people want to be free from tyranny and injustice. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.

And your arguments have nothing to do with the fact that the enhanced interrogations conducted during the Bush years extracted information that was the beginning of the end for Osama Bin Laden. Thanks to Bush, our military, our intelligence people, our special ops teams and Obama, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

First, let me make myself clear; War doesn't lead to success, it leads to more War. Dropping nuclear bombs on Japan is a forever held memory with the Japanese. Bombing Germany is a forever held memory with the Germans. Conquering Nations and Countries becomes a Historical Memorial that incites future Generations to kill one another. If you don't believe this, take a look at the Middle East. All of the killing today is because of Revenge and Hate from the past.

War is a Band-Aid and does not fix the problem, and people like you who beat the “War Drum” are the reason innocent people will die. You are setting the stage for a nuclear disaster that will kill millions, maybe billions. The first killing in Scripture created and led to a future blood bath of countless people, and this march has never stopped. The Bible even supports the Historical proof of revenge. Today, mankind is capable of complete annihilation from our Nuclear Submarine arsenal, alone.

Second, it's obvious you don't know the whole story behind Pat Tillman. Do the research and you'll find your trusted politicians were guilty of a total cover-up, including Dick Cheney and the President, using Pat as a "Hero" smokescreen to manipulate the American People.

Third, even President Bush apologized for his premature assessment of the War in Iraq. This was simply another ploy to draw us, the American People, further into a disastrous War. This whole Political Act of Bush on this ship was to stir World emotion. You say they ALL believed it; where are they today? Where's Colin Powell? Where are all those Countries who ran to the fire of War at first, but backed out later? People began to see those past Bush vendettas, oil, and the fact that no WMD’s were found as reasons to withdraw support.

Your statement about Iraq being a better place; how do you know this? Have you gone there and spent time among the Iraqis? You are probably relying on biased News Media and Talk Show hosts who are paid big dollars for a radical opinion. Try listening to somebody else besides Rush Limbagh. My son spent a year there, and Iraq is full of chaos and death. The death toll of Iraqis (non-combatant) varies from 100,000 to 1,000,000. When we leave this Country, and many years go by, then we will truly know. You make it sound like the Earth is becoming the Garden of Eden because we’ve “Got them on the RUN!”

DB, I really don’t have anything against you, but your statement is way overboard with Political Jargon that is biased towards the Republican agenda. Try getting an opinion of your own.

[Esther]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

Ok..... deacon, BeenThinkin, coadie, canam and the rest of you republicans.....I admit that waterboarding and other methods of interrogation may have led to the death of Osama bin Laden. .... Now will YOU admit, that if they got the information they needed to get this devil, WHY DIDN'T BUSH AND CHENEY GO AFTER HIM THEN? Why did they wait until President Obama came into office? Was Bush and Cheney scared to go in or even make a decision? They let a black/white man make the gutless decision that had no military experience at all. But let's don't give the credit to this black/white President, why? This is the question that you, republicans should ask yourself. So in admitting that waterboarding and other methods of interrogation led to the killing of Osama bin Laden,....I will then have to admit that Bush and Cheney and the rest of the republicans are COWARDS.

You have got to be the most racist poster I have seen. It is NOT about race and why you keep trying to make it so is beyound me.

I can assure you that Bush nor Cheney was/are a coward. And I can also bet you that the CIA and other intelligence gathering personnel that is TRAINED in this area made the decision when to safely go in to accomplish the mission.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

Quotes from G.W. Bush

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't
care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

"I am truly not that concerned about him."
- G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)

And people think that GWB should have credit for something that he wasn't even concerned about. It was not his priority, but it was President Obama's.

Seascapes, do you even know if GWB was following a public strategy of dismissing BL in order to hide the fact they were relentlessly trying to track him down or not?

What he said was one thing, what they did is the true tail of the tape.

We are giving credit to Obama where credit is due. But for you to pretend that Bush and his team had nothing to do with the eventual death of OBL is pure blind partisan politics on your part, and renders you really irrelevant and unreasonable.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Seascapes

President Obama is going to "Ground Zero" and gave GWB and invitation to join him. GWB declined, .... I wonder why? after all, without him....LOL ....President Obama would not have been able to get Osama Bin Laden. Even, GWB knows he shouldn't be credited for what happened. If he felt that he had a big part in the matter, he would certainly be there to share the glory.

Seascapes, Bill Clinton was invited too and also declined. If you think you can judge W's motives for declining to step in the spotlight tomorrow, tell me, what's Slick Willie's motive for turning BO down?

[coadie]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Seascapes, Bill Clinton was invited too and also declined. If you think you can judge W's motives for declining to step in the spotlight tomorrow, tell me, what's Slick Willie's motive for turning BO down?

Too much carbon footprint?
Hot date?

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Light

I noticed you are very careful with the wording of your post. How about VP? Bubba left the bad mouthing to the cheeeene and his loud mouth daughter.

You are so wrong in your assumption Bush was my president but he did not have my respect. Obama is my president and I am slowly loosing respect because of his continued compromise with the republicans.

I'm not aware of a tradition of former Vice Presidents not being critical of sitting Presidents. Al Gore didn't. Dan Quayle didn't. Walter Mondale didn't. It is however a well known fact that for many generations, going back many presidencies, former US Presidents (much different than VP) just don't weigh in on sitting Presidents. Until Jimmy Carter, until Bill Clinton.

And a former Vice Presidents daughter? Why stop there Light? How about that time honored tradition of former Vice President's mother-in-laws, 2nd cousins and high school history teachers remaining mum concerning sitting Presidents?

You got anything more than that?