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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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I generally always pray addressing God as both Father and Jesus. I live with my grandparents and my grama and I have received truth and been born again but grandpa is trinitarian. Ever since truth and error have been at conflict within the household i have noticed that at anytime my grandpa prays he refuses to pray in Jesus Name. It's always "in your son's name". God has dealt with him several times to be baptized but he thus far remained in his tradition. I must say i find it humorous that he is absolutely scared to death of the Name of Jesus Chrsit. Hopefull too, because i know it is because of the amount of conviction he is under.
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How would he respond to your characterization of him being, "scared to death of the name of Jesus Christ?"
Could it be that when he is praying aloud in front of you, he is simply choosing Biblical phrases that at least appear to to conflict with your take on "The Truth®?"
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03-27-2011, 02:46 PM
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
Someone want to explain "the democracy of theocracy"?
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03-27-2011, 02:49 PM
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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No but I listened to them when I was a kid
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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How would he respond to your characterization of him being, "scared to death of the name of Jesus Christ?"
Could it be that when he is praying aloud in front of you, he is simply choosing Biblical phrases that at least appear to to conflict with your take on "The Truth®?"
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"In your son's name" is a biblical phrase?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-27-2011, 03:11 PM
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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Someone want to explain "the democracy of theocracy"?
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Let the all "real preachers" stand up?
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03-27-2011, 04:26 PM
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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Let the all "real preachers" stand up?
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03-27-2011, 07:16 PM
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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Let the all "real preachers" stand up?
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I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Democracy is rule by the people
Theocracy is rule by God
Democracy of theocracy is gibberish
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03-27-2011, 09:20 PM
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Democracy is rule by the people
Theocracy is rule by God
Democracy of theocracy is gibberish
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Actually, theocracy can also mean:
"...a system of government by priests claiming a divine commission." ( www.dictionary.com)
So a democracy of theocracy would be rule by divinely commissioned "priests"...???? (In KP's estimation, anyway.)
To know for SURE you'd have to ask KP directly; I was just taking a shot at his meaning. No way to know if I nailed it, really.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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03-27-2011, 10:43 PM
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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Actually, theocracy can also mean:
"...a system of government by priests claiming a divine commission." ( www.dictionary.com)
So a democracy of theocracy would be rule by divinely commissioned "priests"...???? (In KP's estimation, anyway.)
To know for SURE you'd have to ask KP directly; I was just taking a shot at his meaning. No way to know if I nailed it, really. |
Miss Brattperson, I think you are probably thinking of it the way KP is. He sometimes uses expressions that could be taken different ways. Anybody who knows him though knows he was not espousing or referencing "Kingdom Now" doctrine as Ferd thinks.
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03-27-2011, 10:56 PM
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Re: Kenneth Phillips note on facebook
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Miss Brattperson, I think you are probably thinking of it the way KP is. He sometimes uses expressions that could be taken different ways. Anybody who knows him though knows he was not espousing or referencing "Kingdom Now" doctrine as Ferd thinks.
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Yes, and no disrespect intended--he comes from a set of preachers that bandies about colloquialisms, cliches, inside jokes, cultural references and urban legends rather carelessly, so you can't read that deeply into any statement made. Really.
Tear it apart piece by piece, and you won't really have much. Leave it all together as is, and it's an amusing piece of facebook-script. 
He was saying, "We agree more than we disagree, but pride keeps everyone from admitting it. Trinitarians are afraid of Jesus' name baptism and Apostolics are afraid of the title 'Father.' And btw: Baptists don't need to be embarrassed about speaking in tongues."
It's not more complex than that. The rest is neon ornamentation.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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