Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I don't think the current president of Kenyan is of the Luo tribe that Obama is a part of as was his father or grandfather. I think the current President is of the Party of National Unity and Obama's people would be the Orange Democratic Movement. They share power, but have their differences.
Right. He sees Obama as a nemesis especially since Obama financially supported the guy he was running against, which is why I stated that if Obama was truly born in Kenya, the current leading man would come forth with proof! LOL!
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Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Twisp
I think that is the real crux of this discussion. No matter how often it is verified, by officials and with documents, birthers aren't going to believe it. That is their right, however illogical it might seem to the majority.
Helen Thomas
Apparently she didn't fall for the "front page of yahoo" either.
You have really helped us become more convinced that is bogus than I thought it was before.
Helen is geing a little perkier. She also has experience in reading bluffs. These are classic bluffs.
Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Oh, there is much that can remain hidden, HO. And I don't want to dip into a conspiracy stand here.
I simply want to leave this as Helen, firmly, questioning this and calling it unconstitutional. That is just way too curious to forget about.
It doesn't appear to matter about the proof given - people are not totally buying it - either side - Conservative or Liberal.
And no I don't find it strange as I saw the media go into the tank to get him elected, ACORN falsifying voter registration to get him in, questions about who funded him in college, etc. Just things that are not adding up and never have.
No one listened to all the information concerning Obama BEFORE he was elected. Maybe now that he's taking our country from us someone will come forth. His grandmother just happened to die while he was in Hawaii working out the issue of his birth certificate. The one that really knew. That was rather timely and odd, IMO. Perhaps it was nothing, but then again.....everything about his life is odd.
A good conspiracy theory would be - Why did he and his family wear red on Election Night, when red means blood and revenge? Now, that's a good conspiracy theory for you.
I thought that myself.
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Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Thought you'd love this! This is today's White House briefing.
Someone should tell Mr. Gibbs for $15.00 you can get a birth certificate, in most places.
Thanks PO, I agree with you IF a liberal of Helen's statue questions this, there is more to it than the mass run state media is telling.
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Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Esther
Someone should tell Mr. Gibbs for $15.00 you can get a birth certificate, in most places.
Thanks PO, I agree with you IF a liberal of Helen's statue questions this, there is more to it than the mass run state media is telling.
Right! It peaked my curiosity for Helen to be asking about it.
Re: Esther - Helen Thomas again - Birthing questio
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
No one listened to all the information concerning Obama BEFORE he was elected. Maybe now that he's taking our country from us someone will come forth. His grandmother just happened to die while he was in Hawaii working out the issue of his birth certificate. The one that really knew. That was rather timely and odd, IMO. Perhaps it was nothing, but then again.....everything about his life is odd.
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MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION OF COURT'S
ORDER OF NOVEMBER 19, 2008
Preliminary Statement
The Court managed to take what is at its core a simple and straightforward case seeking review of denial of access to a Hawai'i record, and to add layers of confusion and complexity that were totally unwarranted by the record made in open court on November 18th. For the reasons that follow, Plaintiff moves the Court to reconsider, vacate and rehear the matters decided on November 19th using the correct procedures and standards of law.
Plaintiff initially thought that he would appeal the order to the Intermediate Court of Appeals, but it would be a disservice to that Court to appeal such a mangled and needlessly confused record from the trial forum. Thus, the Rule 59 motion (see below) stays any appeal until a decision on this motion.
1. Procedural basis for reconsideration
Plaintiff is not aware if a judgment has been entered since he has not been served with any such document. Prior to entry of a judgment a Court has plenary power to review and reconsider an order. This motion is also filed under H.R.Civ.P. 59.
One of Obama's sudden trips was announced as being of a granny nature but for some strange reason his family never headed toward granny and he headed to court. I can check on one of the dates.
The hearing is set for November 18, 2008 at 10:30 A.M.
The issue now is his fake COLB has no signatures nor witnesses. He suspects he is out of the woods.
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