I agree and do. But, it doesn't make sense that I would teach them about MY Jesus if they worship the same one.
And I agree there too. You really don't have ownership of Jesus Christ.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
That's easy. Within all of Christianity (in any sense of the word) there are "less than perfect" concepts about the bible and the nature of God and Christ in particular. It is your obligation to show a more perfect way where you can.
That a boy Hoover. You got it right.
OGIA, Your friend at work does not talk about Jesus the same way you do because you know more about HIM. Are you married? If so, your wife would not talk about you the same way if she were not married to as if she would if you were married. The trinitarians are not baptized into Jesus Christ. They have not taken His name on them. We have and now our lastname, spiritually is Jesus. We are the bride waiting on her bridgegroom to come take her away. This is the same as your wife taking your name in marriage. See what I mean?
Same Jesus. Different feelings because we see who He really is.
OGIA, Your friend at work does not talk about Jesus the same way you do because you know more about HIM. Are you married? If so, your wife would not talk about you the same way if she were not married to as if she would if you were married. The trinitarians are not baptized into Jesus Christ. They have not taken His name on them. We have and now our lastname, spiritually is Jesus. We are the bride waiting on her bridgegroom to come take her away. This is the same as your wife taking your name in marriage. See what I mean?
Same Jesus. Different feelings because we see who He really is.
I do see what you mean, but I still don't agree. I do not worship the Jesus Christ a trinitarian does, for the Jesus Christ I worship is THE Almighty God and THE everlasting Father. He is not to them.
He is not a part of a triune godhead. He is not a 2nd person in a 3-man committee of dieties. He is to them.
They (the 2 Jesuses) cannot be different and be the same.
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And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
I do see what you mean, but I still don't agree. I do not worship the Jesus Christ a trinitarian does, for the Jesus Christ I worship is THE Almighty God and THE everlasting Father. He is not to them.
He is not a part of a triune godhead. He is not a 2nd person in a 3-man committee of dieties. He is to them.
They (the 2 Jesuses) cannot be different and be the same.
I never said that there is Triune Godhead. I said God is a triune God. HE is the Creator, Son, and the Holy Ghost. 3 titles, but one God...That is what I mean. I believe that Jesus name baptism the only way to do it.
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus
Pretty clear there is one Jesus. You may feel better saying there is another Jesus, but I do not agree. Look, we feel different about Jesus, because He is THE Almighty God, THE Everlasting Father, THE Prince of Peace. An average Trinitarian of course does not see that. To them they see and worship Him differently than US oneness people. But to say it is another Jesus that takes away every link to truth they might have.
They may serve Jesus and the son and saviour only because of bad theology, but not because He is a different person.
to say it is another Jesus that takes away every link to truth they might have.
I don't think it does, and as I said I certainly don't bring this up until it's time.
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They may serve Jesus and the son and saviour only because of bad theology, but not because He is a different person.
You see, JT, you keep saying things that, according to the trinitarian definition, cannot be true. They DO worship Jesus as a different PERSON. He is NOT the One Person of God. He is the 2nd person of God.
It just don't wash, brother. It's not the Jesus I know and worship.
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And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
You see, JT, you keep saying things that, according to the trinitarian definition, cannot be true. They DO worship Jesus as a different PERSON. He is NOT the One Person of God. He is the 2nd person of God.
When you phrase it like you did, "They do worship Jesus as a different PERSON." That makes since, but to say that they worship a "separate" Jesus than we do is wrong. We worship the same Jesus, but they see Him as the #2 man, and we see HIM as the Almigthy #1.
What you were saying previously is that we worship two separate people. Not True.
When you phrase it like you did, "They do worship Jesus as a different PERSON." That makes since, but to say that they worship a "separate" Jesus than we do is wrong. We worship the same Jesus, but they see Him as the #2 man, and we see HIM as the Almigthy #1.
What you were saying previously is that we worship two separate people. Not True.
I think I'm done here. I don't know how you can justify the Jesus they worship as being the same even though 1) he is a DIFFERENT person than you (I think) and I worship and 2) he is the #2 man and not the #1 man (that I worship).
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And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one. [Zechariah 14:9]
Ignorance of the Identity of the One True God is not a valid reason to practice idolatry.
I think I'm done here. I don't know how you can justify the Jesus they worship as being the same even though 1) he is a DIFFERENT person than you (I think) and I worship and 2) he is the #2 man and not the #1 man (that I worship).
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