Someone please define 1 step and 3 step theology!

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by Jaxon

Three stepper seems pretty obvious. Acts 2:38.....that's what I believe

one stepper: Repentence necessary.....baptism will follow but not believed to be neccessary (then why do it is my question?)....receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost evidenced by speaking in tongues

(haven't really figured out what the so called one steppers here believe about that).

From what I've been able to gather, it varies...some of them (most?) believe you will speak in tongues upon the infilling of the Spirit.
Others feel it might be accompanied by tongues but, not necessarily --- it couild be some other sign.
Others seem to feel that the primary evidence is the fruit of the Spirit, not necesarily any outward sign, although some kind of gift/sign will likely manifest itself at some time in the person's walk with God.

[MomOfADramaQn]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Initial salvation BEGINS with repentance but is not COMPLETE without water and spirit baptism.

My version of the three step doctrine.

According to my Bible the initial step begins with believing.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by MomOfADramaQn

According to my Bible the initial step begins with believing.

Mom-o-drama,
According to your bible, what is the last step?

[MomOfADramaQn]

Originally Posted by tbpew

Mom-o-drama,
According to your bible, what is the last step?

I am not arguing what the last step is, but I think people skip over the actual "believing" part of the scripture. You want to jump right into baptism and speaking in tongues which a lot of people do NOT understand. It is a spiritural growth process. When baby's are born they do not come out speaking do they? Do I believe in Acts 2:38 - without a doubt I do, but there is more to salvation than Acts 2:38.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by MomOfADramaQn

I am not arguing what the last step is, but I think people skip over the actual "believing" part of the scripture. You want to jump right into baptism and speaking in tongues which a lot of people do NOT understand. It is a spiritural growth process. When baby's are born they do not come out speaking do they? Do I believe in Acts 2:38 - without a doubt I do, but there is more to salvation than Acts 2:38.

M-o-D,
I appreciate that you might assume my answer for the last step...since Acts 2:38 is so often preached as a salvation destination rather than the first 1, 2 or 3 steps involving a new birth/beginning.

Since you did not answer what the LAST step was (according to your understanding) I will let it go rather than be mistaken as prying.

[MomOfADramaQn]

Originally Posted by tbpew

M-o-D,
I appreciate that you might assume my answer for the last step...since Acts 2:38 is so often preached as a salvation destination rather than the first 1, 2 or 3 steps involving a new birth/beginning.

Since you did not answer what the LAST step was (according to your understanding) I will let it go rather than be mistaken as prying.

I am not sure what kind of point you are attempting to make - but I do not believe there is a "last" step to salvation.

[LUKE2447]

There is a last step to come into covenant. How about that!

[MomOfADramaQn]

My point is there is no last step because I think in order to be saved it is something we strive for daily - not just a step 1 - 2 - 3 - bam I am saved. It is more than that.

[tbpew]

Originally Posted by MomOfADramaQn

My point is there is no last step because I think in order to be saved it is something we strive for daily - not just a step 1 - 2 - 3 - bam I am saved. It is more than that.

As do I.

Your earlier reply alluded to Acts 2:38 without stating whether you think the last step is:
a. Receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost
or
b. When we breathe our last breath
or
c. Something inbetween

Picking when 'salvation occurs' as some point along the continuum of our lifetime breeds a bunch of human debate and human philosophical rant.

There is one who will judge me...and I am not him.
There are books that will be opened and my life will be judged from them.
There is an appointed time for this judgement

He that endureth unto the end, the same will be saved.

[MomOfADramaQn]

Originally Posted by tbpew

As do I.

Your earlier reply alluded to Acts 2:38 without stating whether you think the last step is:
a. Receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost
or
b. When we breath our last breath
or
c. Something inbetween

Picking when 'salvation occurs' as some point along the continuum of our lifetime breeds a bunch of human debate and human philosophical rant.

There is one who will judge me...and I am not him.
There are books that will be opened and my life will be judged from them.

He that endureth unto the end, the same will be saved.

I think we agree on this