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Old 07-14-2008, 11:11 PM
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MTD, I'm sorry, Bro., but the purpose of the Church is not be a college. I don't know where you got that idea either. Sunday school, Wednesday night Bible study, and all the preaching in the world will still not be the same as going to a college specifically for the study of the Bible. There are simply too many details involved to expect that kind of in-depth learning to take place during regular church activities. Should people be learning from what's taught at their churches? Most definitely. Does that mean churches are supposed to be set up like colleges? Of course not.

Also, Bible college doesn't just teach one about the Bible. Bible courses are mixed in with the other subjects being taught. At least I would think it's this way. Even in secular colleges you have to take English classes, things like advanced mathematics, and suchlike. This is assuming, of course, you aren't getting your degree from one of these degree mills.
Here is what I am saying. Paul taught the Elders at Ephesus everything he knew.

26: Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men.
27: For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God.
28: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. Acts 20:26-28

He said he taught them ALL THE COUNSEL OF GOD. That means there was nothing he was holding back from them. He then charged THEM to feed the flock. With what?

The whole counsel of God they got from him. This was a primitive time and place in our eyes. Yet THEY had the truth. We on the other hand in this day with all our learning tools and Bible Colleges have produced Preachers that are in key issues at stark contrast to the simplistic gospel taught in the early Church.

Looks like I am outgunned in this belief so guess I should let it go.
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Old 07-15-2008, 01:03 AM
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The teaching in the local Church certainly should not be limited to the Elders. Matter of fact I feel thats part of the problem. People are USUALLY only getting preached to as opposed to being taught.

As far as violating principle I have stated there is no command nor precedent for charging disciples of Yeshua to teach them his truth. Rather that is to be done in the local Church. If you can give me an example go ahead. Maybe I missed something.

Well thousands of workers may well have come out of the Colleges. I know for sure at least for a season the Lord will use a program that is not fully of him.
Your posts on this thread border on "Ignorant" with a capital "I."
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Old 07-15-2008, 06:56 AM
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Your posts on this thread border on "Ignorant" with a capital "I."
In the new testament they met in house churches. There's no biblical record of groups of saints buying buildings to have church in. So using that logic, maybe he thinks having "church buildings" is wrong too.
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Your posts on this thread border on "Ignorant" with a capital "I."
And yet no one can produce a New Testament example. So really the "faith once delivered to the saints" is not important in this day and age. Just run the Church according to whatever seems right in our own eyes.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:22 AM
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And yet no one can produce a New Testament example. So really the "faith once delivered to the saints" is not important in this day and age. Just run the Church according to whatever seems right in our own eyes.
Let me know how those robes and sandals are working for ya.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:31 AM
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And yet no one can produce a New Testament example. So really the "faith once delivered to the saints" is not important in this day and age. Just run the Church according to whatever seems right in our own eyes.
Michael, stop the foolishness please.

There's no New Testament example of churches having choirs either. So are churches wrong for having choirs? What New Testament principle does the existence of choirs violate? (none! ... And neither do bible colleges violate any scriptural principle.)

Get your priorities in order, brother. Save the righteous indignation for the real serious issues, not for these bible colleges that are helping build up God's kingdom. You're really wasting time with this.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:38 AM
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Michael, stop the foolishness please.

There's no New Testament example of churches having choirs either. So are churches wrong for having choirs? What New Testament principle does the existence of choirs violate? (none! ... And neither do bible colleges violate any scriptural principle.)

Get your priorities in order, brother. Save the righteous indignation for the real serious issues, not for these bible colleges that are helping build up God's kingdom. You're really wasting time with this.
Thanks again. For a while there I was contemplating quitting my job.
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You're really wasting time with this.
On this we agree.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:24 PM
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MTD, you do make a good point that sometimes not enough is being taught in local churches. That still doesn't make Bible colleges wrong or some sort of affront to the NT.
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Old 07-15-2008, 12:45 PM
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MTD, you do make a good point that sometimes not enough is being taught in local churches. That still doesn't make Bible colleges wrong or some sort of affront to the NT.
Well said sir.

Balance is key.
Imbalanced views of scripture can lead to [and has led to] all kinds of erroneous teachings.
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