|
Tab Menu 1
Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun! |
|
|
05-26-2008, 07:43 PM
|
|
Not riding the train
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 48,544
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
Funbrain is one of the "play" things I am going to encourage her to do. I checked it out and they make a game out of what they do. You are right. She will never know what's really going on! lol
|
Hello!!! I think you are actually ignoring me.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...36&postcount=4
Rico,
The only thing you need to know as a parent or teacher is - Does the child understand all math concepts at her grade level?
Math is a science which never changes. The fundamentals of math DO NOT EVER change.
You need to know if she knows the fundamentals of math since she is still in the elementary level. You are catching this early.
Peggy Kaye's books have all fundamental concepts in game form. Easy, enjoyable and FREE through the Library system.
You then would need to satisfy the both of you by knowing if she can do the seatwork required after understanding the fundamentals. Hence the Steck-Vaughn book I referenced.
That's it. It is not hard.
As much as you hate homeschooling, Abraham Lincoln became a lawyer and eventually the President of the United States of America by sitting in front of his fireplace reading. It is that simple.
She could possibly be hung up on Division not realizing it is the same as Subtraction is to Addition. Fractions won't be learned unless she plays with them - cutting out diagrams or measuring with cups and spoons.
Get a game - get a workbook with short lessons.
That's all you have to do. It is that simple.
If you go with all these other companies you are going to get bogged down, especially since you are not going to homeschool.
Play a game - work the math - test the concept.
It is that easy, Rico.
You can do all of this for less than $40 which would probably including the shipping.
Quote:
The funny thing is that I am against homeschooling children just for the sake of homeschooling them. I think a person can really mess their kids up that way.
|
Bad pastors can mess up a church.
Bad mechanics can mess up your car.
Bad presidents can have "relations" in the White House.
Bad parents can mess up children.
Bad husbands can mess up a marriage.
Bad wives can mess up a marriage.
Just something to think about.
__________________
|
05-26-2008, 08:25 PM
|
|
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,829
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
The problem I have with ACE is that this is the program they were using at this church school my son attended. He was supposedly an "A" type of student on the ACE program, but it turned out he was far behind other students in his grade level when we made the switch to public schools. It left me with a bad taste for ACE and church schools.
|
Well, like I said, I don't recommend it generally, for that reason. However, I still think it might work well for your purposes.
You can also go to the library and check out one of those "What does my child need to know" books (for third grade) and simply spend time reinforcing each math concept with your daughter. In our library they're in a special parenting section.
4th grade is when she'll start multiplication & division and some fractions, among other things.
__________________
"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
|
05-26-2008, 08:56 PM
|
|
Mama to four little angels.
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Texas
Posts: 3,053
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Well, like I said, I don't recommend it generally, for that reason. However, I still think it might work well for your purposes.
You can also go to the library and check out one of those "What does my child need to know" books (for third grade) and simply spend time reinforcing each math concept with your daughter. In our library they're in a special parenting section.
4th grade is when she'll start multiplication & division and some fractions, among other things.
|
Really? Mine did all of that in 3rd. They really push having the multiplication tables to 10 memorized by the end of 3rd grade. I'm a little worried about moving, I hope I don't have kids who end up bored cuz they already know it, or completely lost cuz the new school is ahead of where they left off. I know things can really vary btwn schools.
__________________
You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
|
05-26-2008, 09:07 PM
|
Shaking the dust off my shoes.
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
Posts: 9,004
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Hello!!! I think you are actually ignoring me.
http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...36&postcount=4
Rico,
The only thing you need to know as a parent or teacher is - Does the child understand all math concepts at her grade level?
Math is a science which never changes. The fundamentals of math DO NOT EVER change.
You need to know if she knows the fundamentals of math since she is still in the elementary level. You are catching this early.
Peggy Kaye's books have all fundamental concepts in game form. Easy, enjoyable and FREE through the Library system.
You then would need to satisfy the both of you by knowing if she can do the seatwork required after understanding the fundamentals. Hence the Steck-Vaughn book I referenced.
That's it. It is not hard.
As much as you hate homeschooling, Abraham Lincoln became a lawyer and eventually the President of the United States of America by sitting in front of his fireplace reading. It is that simple.
She could possibly be hung up on Division not realizing it is the same as Subtraction is to Addition. Fractions won't be learned unless she plays with them - cutting out diagrams or measuring with cups and spoons.
Get a game - get a workbook with short lessons.
That's all you have to do. It is that simple.
If you go with all these other companies you are going to get bogged down, especially since you are not going to homeschool.
Play a game - work the math - test the concept.
It is that easy, Rico.
You can do all of this for less than $40 which would probably including the shipping.
Bad pastors can mess up a church.
Bad mechanics can mess up your car.
Bad presidents can have "relations" in the White House.
Bad parents can mess up children.
Bad husbands can mess up a marriage.
Bad wives can mess up a marriage.
Just something to think about.
|
I'm not ignoring you or your advice. Matterwitchu? I checked into the Peggy Kaye book. In fact, I think I posted about it being very reasonably priced. It's on my list of stuff to include.
|
05-26-2008, 09:08 PM
|
Shaking the dust off my shoes.
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
Posts: 9,004
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Well, like I said, I don't recommend it generally, for that reason. However, I still think it might work well for your purposes.
You can also go to the library and check out one of those "What does my child need to know" books (for third grade) and simply spend time reinforcing each math concept with your daughter. In our library they're in a special parenting section.
4th grade is when she'll start multiplication & division and some fractions, among other things.
|
Actually, they have already started multiplication and division. Around here they do it in the 3rd grade.
|
05-26-2008, 09:20 PM
|
|
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,829
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by nahkoe
Really? Mine did all of that in 3rd. They really push having the multiplication tables to 10 memorized by the end of 3rd grade. I'm a little worried about moving, I hope I don't have kids who end up bored cuz they already know it, or completely lost cuz the new school is ahead of where they left off. I know things can really vary btwn schools.
|
Well, I can only speak for Oklahoma schools.
Both of my girls did multiplication tables and division in 4th grade.
They both used Harcourt Math.
Here's the book link--if your library doesn't have it on hand, they'll probably order it for you. (Ours does that.)
What Your Third Grader Needs To Know
__________________
"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
|
05-26-2008, 09:22 PM
|
|
Not riding the train
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 48,544
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
I'm not ignoring you or your advice. Matterwitchu? I checked into the Peggy Kaye book. In fact, I think I posted about it being very reasonably priced. It's on my list of stuff to include.
|
LOL!
I'm glad you are going to get the Peggy Kaye book.
Here is another set of reinforcing workbooks that are inexpensive and fun to work. Each concept is covered separately. You can use these if you don't want to do the Steck-Vaugh.
I've used these and I really like them. The site let's you take a look inside the workbooks.
http://www.keypress.com/x6469.xml
Why I am against testing with a company you are not going to use is that I have seen parents remain confused as it still doesn't line up with their public school. I only see the advantage if you are placing them in that particular homeschool curriculum. JMO.
Game - seatwork - test. Nothing could be more simple.
Let us know what you do and how it turns out. I have a busy week ahead - praying for you!
__________________
|
05-26-2008, 09:27 PM
|
Shaking the dust off my shoes.
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Nunya bidness
Posts: 9,004
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On
praying for you!
|
Thank you. I feel like I am headed for an uphill climb. Actually, I think what I am going to do is utilize a variety of free diagnostic tests I have found on the web so far (thanks to all you homeschooling mommies ). We'll probly spend the better part of a day taking tests, but I want to get a good idea of where she is and where she should be.
|
05-26-2008, 09:27 PM
|
|
Administrator
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,829
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Why I am against testing with a company you are not going to use is that I have seen parents remain confused as it still doesn't line up with their public school. I only see the advantage if you are placing them in that particular homeschool curriculum. JMO.
|
This is a good point, mainly because many curriculums are ultra basic through elementary school and then add on the challenging math in jr. high/high school as totally new concepts--others integrate basic algebra, geometry concepts, etc. from the first grade.
Most curriculums line out in the end, meaning if you use it 1st - 12th, the child will still know what he/she needs to know by the time they graduate. But if you compare to public school curriculum, they can be ahead or behind at any given point. (Behind and ahead being relative concepts.)
__________________
"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
|
05-26-2008, 09:37 PM
|
|
Not riding the train
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 48,544
|
|
Re: Homeschooling Parents
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico
Thank you. I feel like I am headed for an uphill climb. Actually, I think what I am going to do is utilize a variety of free diagnostic tests I have found on the web so far (thanks to all you homeschooling mommies ). We'll probly spend the better part of a day taking tests, but I want to get a good idea of where she is and where she should be.
|
You are welcome!
Not an uphill climb at all. You just need to realize that your tax dollars were wasted as you see that each student is an individual case and they did not have time for your daughter.
Okay, I'm stopping.
__________________
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:06 PM.
| |