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View Poll Results: After what "step" is a person rapture ready?
At genuine repentance 26 76.47%
After water baptism 0 0%
After speaking with tongues (HG baptism) 7 20.59%
None matter unless it was in a oneness church! 1 2.94%
After speaking in tongues, but not yet water baptized 0 0%
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Old 12-12-2007, 11:16 AM
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5 pages and all that is on my mind is the harem...
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I have said this on similar threads, I think it is worth repeating here

The basis of salvation has always been the Blood of Jesus
The requirement of salvation has always been Faith
The object of faith has always been God
The requirement or application for salvation have been different according to the dispensation or covenant
If I had any logical sense I'd say this was a good statement.

Now as to your fourth statement; The requirement or application for salvation according to this dispensation and covenant is?
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Old 12-12-2007, 01:07 PM
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If I had any logical sense I'd say this was a good statement.

Now as to your fourth statement; The requirement or application for salvation according to this dispensation and covenant is?
Well I guess that is what is the issue isn't it.
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Rapture? What rapture? That's not in the bible...
Ha ha. I think Jimmy Swaggert would call it the resurrection?
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For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast. {Ephesians 2:8-9}
Yes, Brother I agree with you!
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I have said this on similar threads, I think it is worth repeating here

The basis of salvation has always been the Blood of Jesus
The requirement of salvation has always been Faith
The object of faith has always been God
The requirement or application for salvation have been different according to the dispensation or covenant
Not really, it has always been by faith alone, the law was added because of man's rebellion. Abraham is the true example from the beginning, God keeps seeking man to come to Him in faith. Before the law, God was calling whosoever will by faith alone, Jesus came to give man a clear object of his faith, this is God seeking until He "finds".
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If I had any logical sense I'd say this was a good statement.

Now as to your fourth statement; The requirement or application for salvation according to this dispensation and covenant is?
Dispensations only exist in the mids of men.
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Dispensations only exist in the mids of men.
Well that is why I put covenants, God is did institute various covenants with man, and the requirements of faith were different for each covenant.
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Not really, it has always been by faith alone, the law was added because of man's rebellion. Abraham is the true example from the beginning, God keeps seeking man to come to Him in faith. Before the law, God was calling whosoever will by faith alone, Jesus came to give man a clear object of his faith, this is God seeking until He "finds".
Not sure what you meant here, but it is clear that the requirements for faith were objective. Abel offered blood sacrifice, Cain didn't therefore Abel was of faith, Cain's wasn't.

We could get into the whole discussion of showing faith by works, but I am sure you know that already.
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