((((SHOCK & AWE))))) TFT going on the JIM BAKER SHOW???!!!

[Sacerdotal]

Originally Posted by Thad

Well,as far as i know, TFT believes you can't be saved outside of Acts2:38 right??? or am i wrong???
He's been in a number of TRIN churches- has he ever spoke on the Oneness ever ? just asking is all

I asked but never got an answer

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Sacerdotal

I don't think we have a preachers wife in apostolic ranks that can compete with her irritating chatter. She chatters more than a school of pirhannah on a one ton brazilian heifer.

You should preach in a few places I have been in the last 7 years you may rethink your statement.

[Sacerdotal]

Originally Posted by Joseph Miller

I don't know if he spoke on the oneness or not. I know that at one Baptist church he did preach about the Holy Ghost and reported that a good number received the Holy Ghost.

I don't know if I would unload everything on the first trip to a trinity church or not. I think we must use wisdom.

I would probably work with the pastor in private first. If you win the pastor it will be easier to win the church IMHO.

Someone said Jentzen Franklin considers TF his pastor. If he was converted to Apostolic it hasn't shown in his ministry or church.

[PastorD]

Originally Posted by Sacerdotal

I don't think we have a preachers wife in apostolic ranks that can compete with her irritating chatter. She chatters more than a school of pirhannah on a one ton brazilian heifer.

all you evangelists that have stayed on soooo many homes......Shhhhhh!

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by Sacerdotal

Someone said Jentzen Franklin considers TF his pastor. If he was converted to Apostolic it hasn't shown in his ministry or church.

I can't verify that either way.

[Joseph Miller]

Originally Posted by PastorD

all you evangelists that have stayed on soooo many homes......Shhhhhh!

You notice I responded to that but I didn't name names. I won't either. lol

[Sacerdotal]

Originally Posted by PastorD

These "trin" churches aren't ever talking about the godhead. They don't put the importance on it that we do. So, they aren't looking or wanting his explination of it. Just preach and "keep the main thing the main thing" ...... and cry a lot. Sorta

I didn't see lori drip mascara filled tears. Hearing her made me miss Tammy Faye crying.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Sacerdotal

Someone said Jentzen Franklin considers TF his pastor. If he was converted to Apostolic it hasn't shown in his ministry or church.

I am really curious what JF thinks of the whole doctrinal difference. i know a lot of people on the forum say that most of these people don't care either way- it could be but in my own experience in my local community, the Trinitarians DO care and have boycotted our church on more than one occasion from singing at community events
I wonder if JF is still trying to pastor in Los Angeles and in GA. ??
I don't see how anyone could keep up with preaching on east and westcoast every sunday. I might go try to check out his church over the christmas holidays when i'm in L.A.

[Thad]

Originally Posted by Sacerdotal

I didn't see lori drip mascara filled tears. Hearing her made me miss Tammy Faye crying.

Tammi captivated millions with her tears AND! Probably made MIllions with her famous tearful pleas for $$$. she was a PRO at it

[ChicagoPastor]

Originally Posted by Sacerdotal

I'm watching the clip and have a few things screaming in my mind.

1 - This new chick is just as irritating if not more so than Tammy Faye. She never shuts up. Jim acts just as plastic as he did before. About 35% of it was an auction of religious stuff. No, I don't want the $100 seed offering "Lori Bible".

2 - T. F. talked about the 'Holy Spirit' and about walking in what the word says first. There was nothing anything close to deep or profound. So far ecumenicalism reigns supreme. It goes without saying that he is brilliant enough that he could affect many but so far it seems he just tries to fit in with them. Maybe that is his tactic until he gets a following.

3 - Who was that soft acting guy who does his advertising? He must go to Jim's sons church. Now that is a spiritual bunch. Ever seen his sons ministry clips? Got an exUP among those preaching false doctrine.

4 - I'm nauseous.

God help us.

And, by the way, Happy Birthday Jesus! (Prove it for a small seed offering!)

Answer to your obversations

#1
Yes Lori needs to stop talking. I'm amazed he hasn't yelled at her on air yet. She's ALWAYS talking.

Jim doesn't always do so much selling, but they really in need of money to keep the TV show on the air. Most of the ministry money is tied up in building Morningside (simiar to Heritage USA minus water parks)

#2
TFT is going to win them over by befriending them. Be sure of this, TFT does not waver in his beliefs of the Apostolic faith.

#3
The announcer is an AG Evangelist and is married. He doesn't normally come across as soft.

#4
Try Alka Seltzer. "plop plop fiz fiz, oh what a relief it is!"