Voter Fraud?

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Know him. Read his Twitter feed. https://twitter.com/SenMastriano
I stopped counting at 11 posts referencing scripture. He isn’t afraid to talk about God at hearings, on social media platforms, on the floor of Congress and in interviews (which is where I obtained the quote).

Nancy Pelosi quotes scripture when it suits her.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I understood his point regarding the Red Sea perfectly.

Really? It wasn't a revelation that parted the waters or some truth that split the Red Sea, it was God. Are we making a god of evidence of fraud? The analogy sounds great to those who stay in the shallow waters.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

No wonder our country is in such a horrible mess. We can’t even find simple unity on a forum called Apostolic Friends.

Although, seriously not funny.

I believe there's unity in most things that matter. There may be disagreements over politics but that's par for the course.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Know Senator Doug Mastriano

He was simply saying that we are up against a situation that is hard and looks impossible to be delivered from. Know him and don’t be stupid.

Originally Posted by n david

Nancy Pelosi quotes scripture when it suits her.


Really? It wasn't a revelation that parted the waters or some truth that split the Red Sea, it was God. Are we making a god of evidence of fraud? The analogy sounds great to those who stay in the shallow waters.
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Try to win an argument, at any cost. . You do you, David.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Try to win an argument, at any cost. . You do you, David.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Originalist

While I loathe this over-spiritualizing this event, I do think it way past time for the kind of patriotic zeal it takes to fight this kind of tyranny, and Trump is the only President we have had that would even try. Thus, we should cut some people some slack when they evoke the Bible in what they see as a battle for our national survival.

Time lines have shifted? Cause I actually agree with you on this.

The Senator or whoever may be a dork or not, but narrative is subtly moving in a direction that will get people thinking. Hopefully, anyway.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Ehud

First, prior to your post, I had never heard of this individual before. He might be the greatest guy in the world. I have no clue, and this is in no way an attack on him. Second, speaking of God and a list of his degrees can't possibly be how we actually gauge whether someone is right and/or can be trusted. My wife's half sister would post all about Jesus online and tell everyone around her all about Him...right before she went into a cussing fit, did her next drug, stole her kid's paycheck, and shacked up with her new "wife." My partner's granddaughter was raised by what would seemingly be a very nice family if you didn't know anything about them. Keeping the story short, the mother had six or seven masters degrees and spoke just as many languages. The police were called to the local Hardees when she was standing naked trying to sell the child for drugs. Sadly, these were not isolated incidents. Resumes can be helpful in finding who has the proper training/credentials, but it isn't proof of much else.

I'm not going to try to convince anybody that the Democratic party is the answer or that Biden/Harris is gonna do anything other than make more of a mess, but the defense of President Trump is ridiculous. We can't trust any local election officials because they're all corrupt. We can't trust the Democrats because all of them are evil. We can't trust Republicans that aren't on the Trump Train because they're all traitors. We can't trust the media...unless we agree with what they're saying then they must be okay. We can't trust state legislatures. We can't trust state courts. We can't trust appellate courts. We can't trust the Supreme Court. But we can trust Donald Trump? Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to pass on that.

I think most patriots are thinking way beyond Trump here. That is what is being missed. This really is not about Trump to people like me. He is one man. At most, he will be President for 4 more years. His Constitutional role is limited to being the CEO of one of three co-equal branches of the Federal Government. He is not the "answer." And you are right. He cannot be "trusted" as some savior. But with all his imperfections, he symbolizes something, the struggle against tyranny. No other candidate of any party would have bothered to put up with the garbage he has. Sadly, it probably took a street fighter with a massive ego to take on the CCP and their American puppets. But even if Trump prevails this week, we must look past him and begin trusting God and OURSELVES as the long-term solution. The political class must be defeated at every level.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I think most patriots are thinking way beyond Trump here. That is what is being missed. This really is not about Trump to people like me. He is one man. At most, he will be President for 4 more years. His Constitutional role is limited to being the CEO of one of three co-equal branches of the Federal Government. He is not the "answer." And you are right. He cannot be "trusted" as some savior. But with all his imperfections, he symbolizes something, the struggle against tyranny. No other candidate of any party would have bothered to put up with the garbage he has. Sadly, it probably took a street fighter with a massive ego to take on the CCP and their American puppets. But even if Trump prevails this week, we must look past him and being trusting God and OURSELVES as the long-term solution. The political class must be defeated at every level.

[Pressing-On]

Great interview with Senator Doug Mastriano. Just one of many. He is not afraid to proclaim his belief and trust in God. He certainly isn't a flake like Nancy Pelosi.

[Ehud]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I think most patriots are thinking way beyond Trump here. That is what is being missed. This really is not about Trump to people like me. He is one man. At most, he will be President for 4 more years. His Constitutional role is limited to being the CEO of one of three co-equal branches of the Federal Government.

I believe it is being missed by many on your side of the fence as well. (Or perhaps by those screaming from a distance that only appear to be on your side of the fence?) I obviously can't tell you what you believe, but most of what I read on this forum and have had said to me in my daily walk is missing the nuance necessary to make this distinction. I am always very much left with the impression that it *is* about Trump.

He is not the "answer." And you are right. He cannot be "trusted" as some savior. But with all his imperfections, he symbolizes something, the struggle against tyranny.

If Donald Trump, known even before election as a brash, power-hungry, egomaniacal bully, is a symbol of our struggle against tyranny, we are in a world of hurt. It isn't to say that he has done nothing right, but when half the population feels they have been railroaded, it shouldn't come as any surprise that there is serious backlash. It's as if conservatives forgot how they felt when the Obama administration was pushing an agenda through Congress on party-line votes and executive orders.

No other candidate of any party would have bothered to put up with the garbage he has. Sadly, it probably took a street fighter with a massive ego to take on the CCP and their American puppets.

Not to belabor the point, but it sounds very much like it *is* about Trump. That there exists those holding to the idea that this must be done and only Trump can do it is why we have analogies of Trump being "called for such a time as this," compared to Moses, etc. So while you might ultimately not feel this way, I hope you understand why some of us reading these posts think you do.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Ehud

I believe it is being missed by many on your side of the fence as well. (Or perhaps by those screaming from a distance that only appear to be on your side of the fence?) I obviously can't tell you what you believe, but most of what I read on this forum and have had said to me in my daily walk is missing the nuance necessary to make this distinction. I am always very much left with the impression that it *is* about Trump.



If Donald Trump, known even before election as a brash, power-hungry, egomaniacal bully, is a symbol of our struggle against tyranny, we are in a world of hurt. It isn't to say that he has done nothing right, but when half the population feels they have been railroaded, it shouldn't come as any surprise that there is serious backlash. It's as if conservatives forgot how they felt when the Obama administration was pushing an agenda through Congress on party-line votes and executive orders.



Not to belabor the point, but it sounds very much like it *is* about Trump. That there exists those holding to the idea that this must be done and only Trump can do it is why we have analogies of Trump being "called for such a time as this," compared to Moses, etc. So while you might ultimately not feel this way, I hope you understand why some of us reading these posts think you do.

Bottom line, it does not HAVE to be Trump he "does it." Sadly, he is the only one who HAS "done it," so far.

Call him a bully if you like. Sometimes bullies stand up to worse bullies.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Originalist

Bottom line, it does not HAVE to be Trump he "does it." Sadly, he is the only one who HAS "done it," so far.

Call him a bully if you like. Sometimes bullies stand up to worse bullies.

I don't believe Trump is a bully. Not at all. We're so used to GOP candidates being the nice guy that when Trump was attacked and actually punched back, it shocked many of us. I'm happy he fights back.

While I've mocked some people and have stated my opinion that it's a lost cause, I'm glad Trump has tried every legal and Constitutional avenue available to contest the election results.

Someone who has taken a page from Trump is Ron DeSantis. I don't know much about him but I'm going to be paying a little more attention because I like how he fights back, too. There was some CNN reporter trying to give a speech during a presser yesterday (IIRC) and DeSantis just demolished her. She was not prepared at all. It was glorious.