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Old 11-14-2007, 02:38 AM
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Would it be correct to say that CP's "inclusion doctrine" is pretty much the same thing as Universalism, only with "Jesus thrown in?" (mean no disrespect with that but can't think of a better way to describe what I've read and heard about CP).

The only difference I pick up on is that CP has seemed to say that Jesus "had to die" in order that everyone can be "saved." Universalism can get by on its own without the ministry of Jesus Christ at all.
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:24 AM
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It's shame a christian would even listen to his music, but alot are listening to alot of mess now days and call it christian music.
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Would it be correct to say that CP's "inclusion doctrine" is pretty much the same thing as Universalism, only with "Jesus thrown in?" (mean no disrespect with that but can't think of a better way to describe what I've read and heard about CP).

The only difference I pick up on is that CP has seemed to say that Jesus "had to die" in order that everyone can be "saved." Universalism can get by on its own without the ministry of Jesus Christ at all.
Unitarianism embraces all without Christ. Christian Universalism recognizes the cross as the only means for man's redemption. I don't know whether CP believes Jesus blood is the only means or not.
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Unitarianism embraces all without Christ. Christian Universalism recognizes the cross as the only means for man's redemption. I don't know whether CP believes Jesus blood is the only means or not.
He believs all will be saved no matter what they believe or live. one could be a chester the molester and still go to heaven.
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It's shame a christian would even listen to his music, but alot are listening to alot of mess now days and call it christian music.
Now you lost me, I don't think I am a SHAME at all to listen to any Christian music I CHOOSE to, so get over it.

I can agree on taking shots about ridiculous statements and being openly gay...but NOT the music. If you think that the only "Christian" music is fiddles or 1960-1980 UPC song-service songs, whatever...seek some more truth.

I knew this thread would go here, whatever.
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BTW...I HATED his last project...but I don't trot down that elitist road.
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Now you lost me, I don't think I am a SHAME at all to listen to any Christian music I CHOOSE to, so get over it.

I can agree on taking shots about ridiculous statements and being openly gay...but NOT the music. If you think that the only "Christian" music is fiddles or 1960-1980 UPC song-service songs, whatever...seek some more truth.

I knew this thread would go here, whatever.
Some of this so called christain music is just worldly music repackaged.
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Now you lost me, I don't think I am a SHAME at all to listen to any Christian music I CHOOSE to, so get over it.

I can agree on taking shots about ridiculous statements and being openly gay...but NOT the music. If you think that the only "Christian" music is fiddles or 1960-1980 UPC song-service songs, whatever...seek some more truth.

I knew this thread would go here, whatever.
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He believs all will be saved no matter what they believe or live. one could be a chester the molester and still go to heaven.
Chester will no longer be a molester when he goes to heaven, all chaff and dross will be removed by the refiner's fire.
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Chester will no longer be a molester when he goes to heaven, all chaff and dross will be removed by the refiner's fire.
I'm interested in discussing this more with you. i'm gonna start a thread.
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