The Reason Some Apostolics Are Concerned: The Results of Erased Lines - Page 5

Whole Hearted · #41 10-31-2007, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast

I find that an interesting phrase but the truth is that TRUE worshipers have to worship in 'spirit' AND in 'TRUTH'. The trinity is a lie, however, and cannot be seen by those who love truth as 'acceptable'.

I have seen men who were brutish with doctrine but, if the Bible still counts for anything, it tells us that we are built on the doctrine. It surely can be imbalanced either way. Even so, spirit without truth is a house built on sand.

AMEN

SDG · #42 10-31-2007, 09:31 AM

Thank God the era of INTOLERANCE is ending .... Make use ONENESS in all apsects, Lord .... Make us, your Body, one ... as you an the Father are one.

Nahum · #43 10-31-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast

I find that an interesting phrase but the truth is that TRUE worshipers have to worship in 'spirit' AND in 'TRUTH'. The trinity is a lie, however, and cannot be seen by those who love truth as 'acceptable'.
I have seen men who were brutish with doctrine but, if the Bible still counts for anything, it tells us that we are built on the doctrine. It surely can be imbalanced either way. Even so, spirit without truth is a house built on sand.

Totally agree brother.

The trinity is a lie, and those who tolerate it, and even promote it, are anti-Apostolic doctrine.

Thad · #44 10-31-2007, 09:56 AM

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Totally agree brother.

The trinity is a lie, and those who tolerate it, and even promote it, are anti-Apostolic doctrine.

Dan do you agree or disagree on this ??

mizpeh · #45 10-31-2007, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Thad

Dan do you agree or disagree on this ??

Dan always cops out on not being able to understand who God is and that we are arrogant to think we can.

Oneness works for him but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with what others believe works for them ie: the Trinity.

Thad · #46 10-31-2007, 10:10 AM

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Dan always cops out on not being able to understand who God is and that we are arrogant to think we can.

Oneness works for him but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with what others believe works for them ie: the Trinity.

Are you saying that he accepts the Trinity also ??

mizpeh · #47 10-31-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Thad

Are you saying that he accepts the Trinity also ??

no...................

SDG · #48 10-31-2007, 10:18 AM

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Dan do you agree or disagree on this ??

Yes, I disagree. I chuckle at those who mistakenly feel they have a monopoly on TRUTH.

ThePastorsCoach · #49 10-31-2007, 10:29 AM

The PAW is not going TRINITY! I do agree with THAD that they have lost much of what they had spiritually because they have gone more into ceremony but it is not because they have ministers that are outside thier rhelm of revelation.

You guys forget the facts that Oneness and A/G fellowshipped and preached for each other for years after the split. YOU CANNOT IGNORE HISTORY!
The DS of Florida called the A/G - "separated brethren" when I first went before the FL board to get license. He said - "You were ordained by "separated brethren". I had NO CLUE what he was talking about. I asked him - Brother Crabtree - what do you mean. He said - "we were all ONE at one time - but we had to separate because of the Revelation of Oneness - but we are still brothers"! HE WAS THE DS of FL!

Just because you love people and allow them to minister in your pulpit does not mean you accept all their doctrine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do any of you know ANYBODY that totally agrees with you on every point of Doctrine?

Please stop making this all so personal. I am not attacking anyone. We can't even discuss something without someone thinking that they are being attacked personally!

TRIPLE E · #50 10-31-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Steadfast

Much has been said about Tulsa, the UPC's Resolution #4 and even the P.A.W. lately. Obviously there are some serious concerns in the Apostolic movement about the laying down of spiritual disciplines and changing of direction that many groups are experiencing.

The reason? It seldom stops once the decline starts. One recent example is exemplified by the vote the College of Bishops of the P.A.W. (Similar to our General Board) just had in which they voted 55 to 58 to basically accept the trinitarian movement and allow them as Brothers and Sisters in their pulpits.

Can you imagine that one of the strongest doctrinal groups that ever lived is now only THREE votes away from accepting trinitarians as right? Look at them closely and you'll see (a fact that was even acknowledged by Bishop Morris E. Golder) a gradual decline that covered the entire spectrum beginning at a disregarding of Apostolic disciplines, overlooking sin to keep talent, ignoring false doctrines and now accepting heresy as doctrinally viable.

THREE votes... The oldest oneness organization and the greatest doctrinal preachers I've ever heard are now three votes away from accepting heresy.

God wake us up.

I hear what your saying Brother but to some others it will be like water running off a duck's back.Since this resolution has passed I fear for the first time the future of the UPCI.