The Source of Most Church Problems

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I'm finding a relationship with what you said and what Tertullian is quoted as saying in another thread. Blame it on the women...

Well, I can only blame this misunderstanding on the influence of women here. If left up exclusively to guys- most church problems would never come up.

Of course mostly nothing else would ever come up or get done either... but it's hard to see there being any church problems when the guys are all out fishing or just sunning themselves and watching the clouds.

"Yup..." Like Adam I say, "Lord, it's the woman who YOU gave me... that's the problem. I was just sitting here and SHE..."

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by pelathais

I agree with the concerns expressed by PP at the start of this thread. I think he did offer some generalities that some could quibble with, but really - all human problems whether "in the church" or wherever, come about because people are either dissatisfied with the current role/relationship set up or because they don't understand it.

Friend, which generalities did I offer? I only ask so that I may address the issues in a more specific manner. I often condense posts because I am told AFF posters will not stay tuned for more than a few paragraphs.:sshhh

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Quite the opposite actually, if you read the history of the Montanist sect.

I'm just giving you hard time. :sshhh

There is some truth to what you say but you haven't balanced your post like PP did.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

I'm just giving you hard time. :sshhh

There is some truth to what you say but you haven't balanced your post like PP did.

Mizpeh is my friend. Thank God!

Hey Miz, I have a new blog address. It's www.pastorposter.com. The site is not finished just yet, but I hope you will stop by and maybe even be a guest blogger every now and then. The link is functional.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Well, I can only blame this misunderstanding on the influence of women here. If left up exclusively to guys- most church problems would never come up.

Of course mostly nothing else would ever come up or get done either... but it's hard to see there being any church problems when the guys are all out fishing or just sunning themselves and watching the clouds.

"Yup..." Like Adam I say, "Lord, it's the woman who YOU gave me... that's the problem. I was just sitting here and SHE..."

Adam was punished for his own sin not for passing the blame on his wife.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Mizpeh is my friend. Thank God!

Hey Miz, I have a new blog address. It's www.pastorposter.com. The site is not finished just yet, but I hope you will stop by and maybe even be a guest blogger every now and then. The link is functional.

I'll add it to my favorites list. oloroid

[Newman]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Make no mistake about it, the nuclear family is an endangered species. All because love has no strings attached, parents are friends instead of teachers, and the only men worthy of respect are limp-wristed, effeminate metrosexuals.

PP- I was careful and mindful of the programming my children were viewing because I didn't want worldly culture coming into my home. Their time in front of the TV was limited (even though they never realized it). TV was a non-issue in my household.

Now, let's talk about the good programming. I thought The Waltons and Little House on the Prarie had great story lines and wonderful family values.

Which leads me to believe that TV like life; to a great extent; depends upon what you are looking for.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Newman

PP- I was careful and mindful of the programming my children were viewing because I didn't want worldly culture coming into my home. Their time in front of the TV was limited (even though they never realized it). TV was a non-issue in my household.

Now, let's talk about the good programming. I thought The Waltons and Little House on the Prarie had great story lines and wonderful family values.

Which leads me to believe that TV like life; to a great extent; depends upon what you are looking for.

Amen Sister! I totally agree, but of course you already knew that.

Trouble is, you must search through a bunch of rubbish to find anything good. I own the entire series of the programs you just mentioned (perfectly legal). I am not anti-tv.

My post was only meant to point out that tv definitely plays a part in shaping culture - even within the church.

[RevDWW]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Amen Sister! I totally agree, but of course you already knew that.

Trouble is, you must search through a bunch of rubbish to find anything good. I own the entire series of the programs you just mentioned (perfectly legal). I am not anti-tv.

My post was only meant to point out that tv definitely plays a part in shaping culture - even within the church.

It takes one to know one............Trouble Maker!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Submission is the root of the problem. Laziness plays a part as well.

Daniel, perhaps you missed my point? My point is that there is an absolutely diabolical perversion involved in these role reversals that leads to mass societal confusion.

I am not blaming a particular gender. I am stating that satan has an agenda. He wants to destroy the family and will play to our egotistical desire for independence, gratification, and power to do so.

We cannot properly submit ourselves to the Almighty without following His original plan for mankind which involves the man as the leader of the home, the woman as his submitted partner, and their children as students of their relationship with each other and God.

I guess one needs to ask oneself this very simple question-Is tv a reflection of society, or is society a reflection of tv? Based on your comments, the evil is in the tv programming. In my opinion, the tv programming just reflects what is going on in society. The evil is in man's heart.