Creating a New Fellowship

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

5 fold ministry?

Five... ten... whatever it takes...

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

My wish list......

1. Doctrinally strong.
2. Standards left up to the local assembly.
3. Fiscally responsible.
4. Central office for communication purposes only.
5. Regionally themed to promote voluntary fellowship.
6. No corporate fundraising programs whatsoever, each church would give to the ministries of their choice.
7. No periodicals. All communication via internet or newsletter.

Great wish list!

Is this just wishful thinking or is this something you will actively pray for? Can God restructure the UPC?

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

My wish list......

1. Doctrinally strong.
2. Standards left up to the local assembly.
3. Fiscally responsible.
4. Central office for communication purposes only.
5. Regionally themed to promote voluntary fellowship.
6. No corporate fundraising programs whatsoever, each church would give to the ministries of their choice.
7. No periodicals. All communication via internet or newsletter.
8. No licensing or dues. Ministers are licensed through their assembly.
9. I would heavily advertise and promote the "fellowship" ideal. I would never, ever, ever, ever use the word "organization" at any time.
10. There would be a focus on specific individual ministries. The website could be utilized to advertise those seeking funding, with a link to paypal accounts for INDIVIDUAL ministries. This would do away with beauracracy and eliminate administrative expenses.

The website would cost money itself (hosting, and building)

[revrandy]

Originally Posted by Ferd

in all seriousness, would your perfect org have a missions arm? would there be collective work for outreach?

Ferd..I just received a Western District Sheaves for Christ Offering info for the Top 20 or givers and TWO of the largest Churchs in the District are not in the Top 20..because ONE I know sponsers it's own Missions Programs overseas and most (if not all) of the Money goes that way.. not HQ... It may be the same across with others across our fair lands...

[stmatthew]

Let me see here:


1. Doctrinally strong with Act 2:38 W&S doctrine being mode of salvation.
2. Standards left up to the local assembly.
3. Fiscally responsible.
4. Central office for communication purposes only with administrative staff.
5. Regionally themed with regional conferences to promote voluntary fellowship.
6. Only funds raised for Missionary support with fund being sent directly to missionary
7. Monthly Magazine via mail (subscription extra) or via internet from website
8. Ministers hold fellowship card from Fellowship for admin small fee ($25 per year)

I don't think the cost of the subscriptions would actually be able to fund a quality magazine. That's why most magazines have advterisers.

Would this org.. er... fellowship consider advertising to supplement the cost of editing and publishing?

And $25 a year per 'minister' isn't enough to cover all the administrative costs associated with 'running' an org... er... a fellowship.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by revrandy

Ferd..I just received a Western District Sheaves for Christ Offering info for the Top 20 or givers and TWO of the largest Churchs in the District are not in the Top 20..because ONE I know sponsers it's own Missions Programs overseas and most (if not all) of the Money goes that way.. not HQ... It may be the same across with others across our fair lands...

Rev, the overhead for missions should be less than a half of one percent. what we currently do, in many ways i just dont like at all.

If I were a pastor, there is an avenue that I would use for Missions and it aint the FMD.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

I don't think the cost of the subscriptions would actually be able to fund a quality magazine. That's why most magazines have advterisers.

Would this org.. er... fellowship consider advertising to supplement the cost of editing and publishing?

And $25 a year per 'minister' isn't enough to cover all the administrative costs associated with 'running' an org... er... as fellowship.

AWCF charges only $25 per year to cover their admin expenses.

I think that the Mag could be available for online viewing for free, or in hardcopy format with a subscription cost. Some folks prefer the hardcopy to the web based. I personally have found that most advertisements in Church magazines leave a lot to be desired.

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

My wish list......

1. Doctrinally strong.
2. Standards left up to the local assembly.
3. Fiscally responsible.
4. Central office for communication purposes only.
5. Regionally themed to promote voluntary fellowship.
6. No corporate fundraising programs whatsoever, each church would give to the ministries of their choice.
7. No periodicals. All communication via internet or newsletter.

Originally Posted by philjones

I could go along with this... Due to past experience I would add that there must be an effective method for restoring ministers who have fallen.

Great Points!
I could do this

[clgustaveson]

This is hilarious if you were being dead serious then I have to give you props for not getting bent out of shape about the comments.