Gino Jennings End Times

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Because he really believes Deuteronomy 22:5

That interpretation of the commandment without understanding the spirit of the law reminds me of this:
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat. But when the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath.” But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions, how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread, which was not lawful for him to eat nor for those with him, but for the priests alone? Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and are innocent? But I say to you that something greater than the temple is here. But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire compassion, and not a sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent.
— Matthew 12:1-7

If you wife is cold, and the only thing at hand is your jacket,...

[diakonos]

If you wife is cold, and the only thing at hand is your jacket,...

Then she should have been better prepared. At least be consistent. ����..♂️

[coksiw]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Then she should have been better prepared. At least be consistent. ����..♂️

Man I’m glad I’m not your wife



(Im a dude)

[n david]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Because he really believes Deuteronomy 22:5

To the letter!

[n david]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Then she should have been better prepared. At least be consistent. ����..♂️

You're on your own, woman!

There have been a number of times in which I have draped my suit jacket over the shoulders of my wife or daughter because they were cold.

IMO he's being a little too literal.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by coksiw

That interpretation of the commandment without understanding the spirit of the law reminds me of this:
At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath, and His disciples became hungry and began to pick the heads of grain and eat. But when the Pharisees saw this, they said to Him, “Look, Your disciples do what is not lawful to do on a Sabbath.” But He said to them, “Have you not read what David did when he became hungry, he and his companions, how he entered the house of God, and they ate the consecrated bread, which was not lawful for him to eat nor for those with him, but for the priests alone? Or have you not read in the Law, that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple break the Sabbath and are innocent? But I say to you that something greater than the temple is here. But if you had known what this means, ‘I desire compassion, and not a sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent.
— Matthew 12:1-7

If you wife is cold, and the only thing at hand is your jacket,...

Agreed.

[n david]

Originally Posted by peter83

Hi David
For UPC he disagree with women preachers and 2nd marriage (which also the Bible disagree)

The UPC doesn't believe in 2nd marriage. They believe it's okay (in certain instances) to be remarried. Your phrasing implies they believe in polygamy.

Originally Posted by peter83

For men-women they are very strict yes,(but as i know he also teaches respect and gentleness too.(grand father ,mothers and women).

I saw a youtube video where one of his readers read a letter from a person attending a UPC church who also watched Gino. The person said their UPC Pastor said Gino was too harsh. To which Gino responded that the person should leave their "false prophet" and UPC church. Then his other reader read the scripture "Come out from among them and be separate." For a man who 1) has by-laws against proselyting and causing division; 2) talks a lot of context and understanding what a scripture is saying before using it -- he's incredibly ignorant telling the person to leave their church and even more ignorant trying to apply that scripture to the UPC.

Originally Posted by peter83

I dont see anything bad to this one i mean ,how one can preach through anything else but Scripture itself? (maybe misunderstood that?)

From the by-laws it appears everything must be approved by Gino before it can be read, quoted, referenced, etc by one of his ministers. That's just a tad ridiculous.

There's more in the by-laws which show he demands a lot of control over people who either want to be a minister or want to be a member of his church.

I would run from Gino and that church.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

Gino has said some things I believe, such as New Birth Baptism and the Oneness of God. But the dude also has some extreme and crazy beliefs. And he hates other Oneness Pentecostals such as the UPC and has stated people should leave the UPC. So I don't hold him in that high regard as do others on here.

Men are not allowed to give their jacket to a sister if she is cold. Nor can a man give her his gloves.

You're also prohibited from any profession which requires the sale or handling of a firearm -- and prohibited from having any in your personal, private possession.

Ministers in his church aren't allowed to reference, quote, teach or even read any book not pre-approved as Holy Scriptures. Doing so will result in suspension from teaching. Second offense will result in expulsion from the church.

There's a lot more you can read in their by-laws.

Wow, did not know this. You've ruined me on him, you Negative Nancy, you!

[n david]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Perhaps the UPC scares him because of their weird belief about celebrating pagan holidays like Christmas and Easter? Or rejecting the headcovering?

The UPC doesn't have a literal belief in celebrating Christmas or Easter. Individual churches either allow or teach against celebrating holidays. I attended a UPC Bible School at which there were a handful of students who came from churches which taught against holidays. (side note: NEVER, EVER put a miniature christmas tree and lights and present in the room of someone who doesn't celebrate the holiday. The tree and lights went flying down the hall. A loud, angry voice was heard. I seriously thought fisticuffs were going to be next. I felt bad for participating in what I thought at the time was a fun prank. Certainly didn't expect him to go rage monster.)

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If the UPC doctrine that condemns women wearing pants on the basis of Duet. 22:5 this would be consistent.

But she's not wearing the jacket as her clothing. It's one thing for a woman to wear a man's jacket as part of her outfit -- it's far different for a woman to just put it on because she's cold.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Not saying I agree with this reasoning but I recall MANY threads on the Forum where Elders are allowed to set certain STANDARDS for Churches that are not expressed in scripture like shaving beards.

You're right, he can set whatever standards he wants for his church. I certainly wouldn't attend there.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I have owned many firearms and still own some but as has been said many times here if I wanted to be part of their group I would have to submit.

I've never heard of a church having this as their by-law or belief. Non-combatant, yes, but the complete prohibition against all firearms, no. Apparently none of his men are hunters.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

To extreme, altho to me the reading of most books outside scripture does seem to increase error.

True. I believe we should be cautious of what we read and people in ministry we follow. There are some ministers who are against any who aren't oneness apostolic. Don't read their books, don't listen to their sermons, don't follow them on social media. Then there are others who say it's okay to read and listen and follow them, but to be careful and sensitive to the spirit when doing so.

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

I could not belong to his Church because I am remarried. So I'm not his follower but I do think all in all their group is more serious than most.

One part of the by-laws I do like and appreciate is the section on men's and women's dress. It's even complete with photos of what's acceptable and not acceptable, so you can't feign ignorance.

[Michael The Disciple]

True. I believe we should be cautious of what we read and people in ministry we follow. There are some ministers who are against any who aren't oneness apostolic. Don't read their books, don't listen to their sermons, don't follow them on social media. Then there are others who say it's okay to read and listen and follow them, but to be careful and sensitive to the spirit when doing so.

Reading Evangelical and Charismatic books holds one back from fully accepting the doctrine of Acts 2:38, Oneness, and holiness. I read tons of them my first 4 years.

It got to where I could see the books tho perhaps making a few good points would usually teach opposite of Jesus.

Its that way now for me about Apostolic books. Once past Acts 2:38 and Oneness its mostly downhill.