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Old 06-08-2007, 10:23 AM
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In no way is this young lady's murder ever justified under any circumstances, but I could not help but notice what this young lady was wearing in the security video from the Target store where she was abducted. The despicable young man who has been arrested for her murder was said to be suspected as a stalker. There will be no way of knowing this perhaps, unless this murderer confesses and describes in detail his mental processes, but after seeing her in short shorts and a revealing tank top I wondered if he selected her from the crowd because of all of the flesh she was exposing.

Please do not read this the wrong way! There is no excusing the actions of this evil person! No one deserves such a tragic end to their lives. This young man was looking for a victim and found it in this innocent young lady. My thinking was had this young lady been dressed more modestly, would the perpetrator have passed on her for another young lady.

Its all pure speculation, no one can say for sure, but it made me think how important it is for ladies to remain modest.
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First of all I made it very clear that I was not blaming the victim and that there was no excuse for the murderers actions. I thought I made that crystal clear. I'm sorry I didn't for you.

Third, you must not have seen the video footage of this young lady or your sensibilities have been dulled. She was dressed very scantily exposing more than just knees and elbows.

Let me again make myself clear for the dull of understanding: THIS YOUNG LADY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN KILLED! IT WAS AN EVIL, WICKED AND DISGUSTING ACT! THE MURDERER DESERVES 100% OF THE BLAME! I believe this animal would have killed regardless of who it was. I was just curious to know if he selected her b/c he was drawn to her sensual dress. I would not be surprised if he was.
Respectfully, this is sick. You did indeed suggest that it was her appearance that caused her abduction:

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after seeing her in short shorts and a revealing tank top I wondered if he selected her from the crowd because of all of the flesh she was exposing
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She was dressed very scantily exposing more than just knees and elbows
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I was just curious to know if he selected her b/c he was drawn to her sensual dress. I would not be surprised if he was
It's a tragic loss. The man would have killed another woman regardless. This girl was young and alone - that's why he took her. She was vulnerable. Had another girl been there, even an apostolic girl all dressed up in the latest holiness fashion, he would have done the same.

I get upset when a person is shot and killed, and immediately people question gun control laws and start accusing the gun companies - as though they themselves had pulled the trigger.

These posts remind me of that.

Instead of focusing on the murderer, we're picking apart the victims appearance and blaming that for the mans actions. Say you didn't, but it's there . . .

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after seeing her in short shorts and a revealing tank top I wondered if he selected her from the crowd because of all of the flesh she was exposing
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She was dressed very scantily exposing more than just knees and elbows
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I was just curious to know if he selected her b/c he was drawn to her sensual dress. I would not be surprised if he was
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:32 AM
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Respectfully, this is sick. You did indeed suggest that it was her appearance that caused her abduction:







It's a tragic loss. The man would have killed another woman regardless. This girl was young and alone - that's why he took her. She was vulnerable. Had another girl been there, even an apostolic girl all dressed up in the latest holiness fashion, he would have done the same.

I get upset when a person is shot and killed, and immediately people question gun control laws and start accusing the gun companies - as though they themselves had pulled the trigger.

These posts remind me of that.

Instead of focusing on the murderer, we're picking apart the victims appearance and blaming that for the mans actions. Say you didn't, but it's there . . .








No accusation is being made against the girl he was only stating the obvious.
The guy was a sicko pervert but are you saying that her appearance might not have triggered something in his sick mind?
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:36 AM
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No accusation is being made against the girl he was only stating the obvious.
The guy was a sicko pervert but are you saying that her appearance might not have triggered something in his sick mind?
What if a sicko pervert kills people for wearing yellow ribbons in their hair... do people stop wearing yellow ribbons?
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:39 AM
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What if a sicko pervert kills people for wearing yellow ribbons in their hair... do people stop wearing yellow ribbons?
I know what you are saying is so some are so perverted and deranged yes they kill just to kill. But honestly are you saying it is not possible that naked flesh could NOT have triggered this sicko?
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:41 AM
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No accusation is being made against the girl he was only stating the obvious.
The suggestion was made more than once that her appearance could have been what caused it. It's like saying gun manufacturers could be liable for a shooting. Dumb.

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The guy was a sicko pervert but are you saying that her appearance might not have triggered something in his sick mind?
She was young (18) and alone. She was vulnerable and, though I haven't seen her to know what her body type is, he probably felt she was weak and able to be abducted.

I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have a clue what she was wearing, or wasn't motivated by her appearance.

My worldly friends like to poke fun of apostolics because they're so taken with appearance. To them, it's nothing to see miniskirts, short-shorts, tank tops or whatever. It's normal to see girls dressed like that. That's all they've known by being in the clubs and not growing up in a conservative environment. Yet to an apostolic it's the opposite.

It's ignorant to question appearance when the guy probably passed up many other scantily clad girls on the way to abduct his victim.

It wasn't her physical appearance and dress . . . it was her vulnerability that attracted him.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:41 AM
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I know what you are saying is so some are so perverted and deranged yes they kill just to kill. But honestly are you saying it is not possible that naked flesh could NOT have triggered this sicko?
Pure speculation ... again no evidence of sexual assault to collaborate this ... I still think it's CONVENIENTLY grasping at straws to justify a paradigm.
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:44 AM
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DA - have you noticed how apostolics are so taken with the way worldly girls dress . . . even more so than worldly guys?
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:45 AM
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DA - have you noticed how apostolics are so taken with the way worldly girls dress . . . even more so than worldly guys?
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DA - have you noticed how apostolics are so taken with the way worldly girls dress . . . even more so than worldly guys?
Methinks some are constantly thinking about the flesh ... CR, YOU HAVE FRIENDS IN THE WORLD????
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:46 AM
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Pure speculation ... again no evidence of sexual assault to collaborate this ... I still think it's CONVENIENTLY grasping at straws to justify a paradigm.
I don't think the presence of a couple of layers of blended cotton and polyester down past the knees or on the shoulders was ever a good enough shield or armor to protect against someone who is evil and has demonic intent.
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