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04-26-2007, 08:50 AM
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Excellent post, Ferd.
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Ditto!
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04-26-2007, 08:55 AM
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Ditto!
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Still doesn't change the AS. We can pull at the heart strings all we want and I partially agree. But the bottom line is you are going against what you said you would do. Maybe getting out isn't the answer. Maybe its the UPC with no back bone, enough to address those that violate.
Or maybe the AS was just a cover. SOmething to appease the freakycons for a time.
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04-26-2007, 08:58 AM
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Still doesn't change the AS. We can pull at the heart strings all we want and I partially agree. But the bottom line is you are going against what you said you would do. Maybe getting out isn't the answer. Maybe its the UPC with no back bone, enough to address those that violate.
Or maybe the AS was just a cover. SOmething to appease the freakycons for a time.
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My ditto was to the statement that one should not leave over trivialities. They should DEFINITELY be honest enough to be obedient and ethical in their behavior and not violate the AS or any other tenet of the AOF. They can absolutely do this while attempting to change the position of their organization from within.
Violating a law or rule and flaunting it in the face of those in leadership is not the way to properly effect change. 
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04-26-2007, 09:00 AM
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My ditto was to the statement that one should not leave over trivialities. They should DEFINITELY be honest enough to be obedient and ethical in their behavior and not violate the AS or any other tenet of the AOF. They can absolutely do this while attempting to change the position of their organization from within.
Violating a law or rule and flaunting it in the face of those in leadership is not the way to properly effect change. |
Exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks. 
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04-26-2007, 09:04 AM
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I'm sure we can dig in ALL of our lives and find things or rules that we violate everyday! Yet, some things we want to nit-pick endlessly.
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04-26-2007, 09:07 AM
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I'm sure we can dig in ALL of our lives and find things or rules that we violate everyday! Yet, some things we want to nit-pick endlessly.
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What great logic. Still doesn't change the AS. Do you not put any stock in its validity? Is it not binding?
If we can ignore it.....well great! What was its point to begin with?
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04-26-2007, 09:35 AM
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My opinion is that some people take everything WAY to seriously... but only if it's convenient.
When you got your drivers license, you promised to obey the laws of the state - and signed a affirmation to the fact. Nearly every time you get behind the wheel you break that promise, and know you will do it again.. and again... and again...
Does this make you dishonest, hypocritical, without integrity etc? The fact is you mostly abide by the laws, and know if you have a major infraction you will be sanctioned or lose a license.
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04-26-2007, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
My opinion is that some people take everything WAY to seriously... but only if it's convenient.
When you got your drivers license, you promised to obey the laws of the state - and signed a affirmation to the fact. Nearly every time you get behind the wheel you break that promise, and know you will do it again.. and again... and again...
Does this make you dishonest, hypocritical, without integrity etc? The fact is you mostly abide by the laws, and know if you have a major infraction you will be sanctioned or lose a license.
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Bro Hoover, I never had you pegged for an anti-UPC guy. I'm shocked!
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04-26-2007, 09:49 AM
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Bro Hoover, I never had you pegged for an anti-UPC guy. I'm shocked!
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04-26-2007, 09:51 AM
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