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Old 04-23-2007, 10:14 PM
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While TV viewing can be attributed to some of the overall decline and desensitization of morality, I see that the internet can easily make the actual contact between two lustful people. This fact maks the internet a more direct rather than indirect (TV) contributor to marital decay.
Regarding moral decay I would say that tv has contributed to most of it not just some.
I do agree that the interent can make contact between two people much easier. Stories abound on this.
Again, the balance to this is that I WILL set no wicked thing before my eyes. The choice is made regardless of the medium used.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:20 PM
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Regarding moral decay I would say that tv has contributed to most of it not just some.
I do agree that the interent can make contact between two people much easier. Stories abound on this.
Again, the balance to this is that I WILL set no wicked thing before my eyes. The choice is made regardless of the medium used.
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I confess I can't quite follow you here. If someone were to have a few religious networks, Fox News, C-span, Weather Channel, and your favorite cooking shows, would it still be a "Wicked Thing"?

There is technology available to have and do just what I mention above. IT IS all about choices we make regardless of the medium used - but I think that destroys your arguement.

Either way - my life is too busy as is, and unless I am convinced I am missing something benefical that can't be otherwise obtained I'll continue to resist becoming a couch potato.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:26 PM
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While TV viewing can be attributed to some of the overall decline and desensitization of morality, I see that the internet can easily make the actual contact between two lustful people. This fact maks the internet a more direct rather than indirect (TV) contributor to marital decay.
This forum can be a contributor to marital decay...
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:27 PM
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In some cases I would agree. But at times changing a stance is not necessarily the same saying "We were wrong." Sometimes it is simply stating that things have changed and so are we.
Your point is a very imortant one that I should have made in my original post. The very premise that to change ones stance is saying you were wrong is flawed as you point out here.
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There is a whole lot of difference between the two.
For me to go to a porn site, I have to decide to do it. It doesn't happen by accident.
For someone to view something digusting on tv, one need only channel surf and they will see it regardless of whether they intend to or not.
This argument is so worn and thin that it really doesn't have much merit since the two mediums are vastly different.
Also, there are such things called internet filters to protect the accidental viewing of porn. Not available on tv as I recall.
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Really? Do a search on the word "kitten" and tell me what you find.
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This forum can be a contributor to marital decay...
Yup. And magazines. There goeth the Pentecostal Herald.
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Your point is a very imortant one that I should have made in my original post. The very premise that to change ones stance is saying you were wrong is flawed as you point out here.
Actually it can often be a mark of maturity.
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Regarding moral decay I would say that tv has contributed to most of it not just some.
I do agree that the interent can make contact between two people much easier. Stories abound on this.
Again, the balance to this is that I WILL set no wicked thing before my eyes. The choice is made regardless of the medium used.
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Funny thing, after all the TV debate, no one has mentioned how easy it has become to bring movies into our homes. Probably the most common statement among UPCers is, "I can't wait till that comes out on DVD!"

This whole debate is laughable to me especially when it is politicized and common sense is found to be so low on the totem pole.
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Old 04-23-2007, 10:32 PM
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Actually it can often be a mark of maturity.
Many in old time Pentecost have created their own house of cards by emphasizing a laundry list of do's and don'ts so much that people forget those are men's applications of scriptural principles and are apt to change as circumstances do.

When peoples faith is bound up in the legalism the powers that be fear channging any of the legalism or traditions because it could open the door to questioning more of the extra biblical injunctions.
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Really? Do a search on the word "kitten" and tell me what you find.
This what I found:

http://www.cutelittlekittens.com/
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