56yr Old Woman shoots and kills intruder. Audio - Page 5

MissBrattified · #41 12-05-2009, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kae

I had to listen to that part over again, because it was confusing to me. I believe she relayed that to the operator, we couldn't hear her when she actually said it to the man, right before she actually shot him. I will have to listen again to be sure it was earlier today.

Okay, well, what I meant was yelling through the door to let him know she had a gun, before he ever broke in. I guess she was trying to keep him from knowing she was home or from seeing her through the windows/doors? I think she was hoping he would give up and go away.

It's a moot point anyway. The man is dead, and the woman, although she defended herself rightfully, will have to deal with some terrible guilt. I feel bad for her. Listening to her after she shot him made me cry, too. What a terrible thing to have to live with.

Kae · #42 12-05-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Okay, well, what I meant was yelling through the door to let him know she had a gun, before he ever broke in. I guess she was trying to keep him from knowing she was home or from seeing her through the windows/doors? I think she was hoping he would give up and go away.

It's a moot point anyway. The man is dead, and the woman, although she defended herself rightfully, will have to deal with some terrible guilt. I feel bad for her. Listening to her after she shot him made me cry, too. What a terrible thing to have to live with.

I agree, I would not have handled it as well. I probably would have been under a bed or tried to get out another way.

Kae · #43 12-05-2009, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandra

I listened to the whole 32 min. I didn't intend to listen that long. I think the police took way to long! I wish she would of just shot him in the leg , just wounded him. I don't fault her, I know she had to do what she had to do. It is clear on tape that she didn't want to kill him, but again the police took FOREVER!

This happens a lot. In our area, the police were talking to a group of teens explaining that their were only six officers on duty at one time. He then proceeded to ask if there was a bank robbery and a call that there was an intruder at their home, which do you think the police would respond to first? Of course the robbery. So in that perspective it can take a long time depending on where they are and what they are doing.

tstew · #44 12-05-2009, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kae

I think she wanted to avoid confrontation she kept asking them to hurry. I believe everyone would handle the situation differently depending on their strengths and weaknesses. Coming from a woman's perspective their is no way I would have wanted to confront him, she was worried about him seeing her and had even turned off all the lights. At one point they asked her if their was a room she could lock herself in in the house. She said no she didn't feel comfortable in a small bathroom with a shotgun. I believe you are looking from a man's point of view which might have been a bit more rational. This man was pounding on all the doors and windows and was yelling, this can be pretty intimidating to a woman, where a man might feel more in control. Even though she was level headed she was probably trained on how to act, thinking beyond that might have been too much at the moment.

Yes, I was trying to make allowance for the fact that I am a relatively younger man and she is a relatively older woman. I just think that if he was stealthily trying to break in, there would be no question in my mind about motive. However, if someone were to come knocking on my doors and yelling for a person that didn't live there, I would think that they could possibly be confused or disoriented. I'm not saying that I wouldn't arm myself and address the potential threat.

Kae · #45 12-05-2009, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tstew

Yes, I was trying to make allowance for the fact that I am a relatively younger man and she is a relatively older woman. I just think that if he was stealthily trying to break in, there would be no question in my mind about motive. However, if someone were to come knocking on my doors and yelling for a person that didn't live there, I would think that they could possibly be confused or disoriented. I'm not saying that I wouldn't arm myself and address the potential threat.

I re-listened and I was incorrect she didn't identify that she had a gun and was on the phone with the police before or after she shot him. I am not arguing, but he wasn't just yelling or knocking he was also threatening to do something to the house. She thought he was drunk not for sure.

I think I would have been hiding under the bed or trying to get as far away as I could. Using a gun isn't my specialty.

Kae · #46 12-05-2009, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kae

I had to listen to that part over again, because it was confusing to me. I believe she relayed that to the operator, we couldn't hear her when she actually said it to the man, right before she actually shot him. I will have to listen again to be sure it was earlier today.

I don't know how I came to this conclusion, but no where in there did she say she identified that she had a gun or was on the phone with the police. Just wanted to correct that error.

Digging4Truth · #47 12-07-2009, 07:29 AM

I have told my kids about this recording and I think I am going to let them listen to the whole thing. I think it is a good lesson in the consequences of self defense. You can hear how confident the lady is in the beginning. She says she doesn't want to but she will kill him dead if he breaks in. It is sort of a matter of fact statement. You can tell that she and her sons have discussed this and that she knows what to do if she is forced to do it.

Then... after the fact... even though she was justified to fire the gun the very real terror that would hit any of us to know that we have taken a human life.

I can tell my family about how to defend themselves in a situation like that... and they should... but nothing compares you for the realization of the true human consequences of what you had to do.

Jeffrey · #48 12-07-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

regardless of what one thinks should have been done, a citizen as the right to stand their ground and defend their property by all enemies, foreign and domestic.

I think I would have run out the front door or hid in a back room with gun pointed to door hoping sheriff would come before having to shoot, but I always don't think the ECU pirates shouldn't have run the ball on 4 and 1 after being stopped twice.

Easy to make judgements after the fact.

Ha! I think you're confused with the duties of the United States Government, and its Commander-in-Chief! lol "foreign and domestic..."