Do you believe the innocent party in a situation - Page 5

Pressing-On · #41 05-13-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

You feel that strongly about that scripture? I think it points out that IT COULD happen, but not that it WILL happen. It's a warning.

I also think if we are talking about depriving being a fault of the marriage that we should discuss the reasons of why there might be depriving. Not fair to talk about one without the other.

I feel strongly that the scripture is - yes - warning of "depriving" and the consequences - temptation by Satan.

I agree that we do need to discuss reasons for "depriving" - porn for example.

Can we flippantly say, "It was his fault, it was his choice?" - IF we "deprived" him because of having issues with trusting him, etc. How far and deep does "depriving" go? Is it just a surface "depriving" of engaging in normal sexual intimacy or does the scripture reach further when the couple has more deep seated problems they are dealing with?

What scriptures work with this? How far do we go in each situation? When does I Peter 3:1 and I Cor 7:15 come into play?

Again, how far do we think that the admonition on "depriving" goes? I guess I'm just wondering how "humble" are we when the ball is on our side of the court?

Pressing-On · #42 05-13-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

1 Corinthians 7:5 (King James Version)

5Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

Common sense. Don't defraud one another because doing so opens you up to being more vulnerable to temptation. I'm not sure what else there is to say about it.

Yes, but the scripture starts out by saying - "Defraud/deprive ye not one the other..." and then goes on to say the only time that is acceptable is during a consented fasting and prayer time. It means that the scripture is speaking on "Defrauding" as though there are other underlying reasons that either party would do so.

In other words, I think there is more involved here. The scripture doesn't seem to allow for excuses of any kind.

rgcraig · #43 05-13-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I feel strongly that the scripture is - yes - warning of "depriving" and the consequences - temptation by Satan.

I agree that we do need to discuss reasons for "depriving" - porn for example.

Can we flippantly say, "It was his fault, it was his choice?" - IF we "deprived" him because of having issues with trusting him, etc. How far and deep does "depriving" go? Is it just a surface "depriving" of engaging in normal sexual intimacy or does the scripture reach further when the couple has more deep seated problems they are dealing with?

What scriptures work with this? How far do we go in each situation? When does I Peter 3:1 and I Cor 7:15 come into play?

Again, how far do we think that the admonition on "depriving" goes? I guess I'm just wondering how "humble" are we when the ball is on our side of the court?

I'm still liking how Miss Bratt put it. There might be fault on both sides, there might be depriving, but that does not excuse the sin of divorce.

Pressing-On · #44 05-13-2009, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I'm still liking how Miss Bratt put it. There might be fault on both sides, there might be depriving, but that does not excuse the sin of divorce.

Well, I guess I'm not a good one for the conversation because my husband is perfect.

blueeyes · #45 05-13-2009, 02:57 PM

WOW!!! Did I open a can of worms??

I am young and this has been really eye opening!

rgcraig · #46 05-13-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blueeyes

WOW!!! Did I open a can of worms??

I am young and this has been really eye opening!

Just proof that everyone has their own opinion and it's really left up to you to search out the answer for yourself in scripture.

*AQuietPlace* · #47 05-13-2009, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Can we flippantly say, "It was his fault, it was his choice?"

I think in this case, there are probably deeper problems at issue than just the depriving. There are probably some serious marriage problems going on that need dealt with. Maybe more fault on one side, or maybe equally at fault.

Get counseling, whatever... but don't choose adultery. Adultery is so incredibly destructive to everyone involved. NEVER, ever a good choice. And ALWAYS a sin.

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I guess I'm just wondering how "humble" are we when the ball is on our side of the court?

I agree that we can't just flippantly write off our part in marriage problems.... but that STILL doesn't make us at fault for the actual act of adultery if we didn't commit it.

IMO, it is two different issues. You can have a lot of marital distress without choosing adultery.