Jimmy Swaggart's Wife

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by Neck

My father had a conversation with JS in 1975 and was in talks to debate him in an open forum on the Oneness of God.

They had crossed paths some years earlier when my Dad was in the AOG.

That would have been a great debate..

Yes, Bro. Nathan,

It would have been! I have heard that he had discussions with some
of our ministers. Can't recall who it was!

Blessings,

Falla39

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

While I don't like the way Swaggart attacks others it was his teaching on the Cross that help me start my journey back towards a real relationship with God. I do not listen to his wife or his son at all. They are very backwoods and are afraid of everything from gays to free masons. They remind me a lot of UPC in their teachings regarding the Baptism of the Holy Ghost though. Though Jimmy rarely mentions Baptism of the Holy Ghost that is all that Donnie Swaggart talks about.

Afraid?

Maybe they just think that homosexuality is sinful and devilish, and freemasonry is sinful and devilish.

In both cases, they'd be 100% right.

[Margies3]

Originally Posted by 2020Vision

Delta, I read your post on another thread too about doubting RP even knew who the UPC was. Of course they do! The largest oneness organization in the country! Influential. Great preachers. Some of the finest preachers even. There's no doubt in my mind, all of Christendom knows who the UPC is. And that's not being egocentric about our organization. It's pretty solid. I've never met a minister from a different denomination that answered me "UPC? What's that?" Either way, UPC is those oneness people that he is referring to, since... we are ONENESS!

BTW... count me in as one "afraid" of homosexuality and free masons.

Don't kid yourself. I've known several ministers from other denominations who had no clue whatsoever the UPC is. In fact, with at least two I've talked with, when I mentioned that I grew up UPC and still believe in the doctrine of the UPC (oneness, Jesus' name baptism), they had no idea what I was talking about and could see no reason at all why it should bother them to have me teaching Sunday School in their trinity churches.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Jeanie

False Doctrine
Contemplative Spirituality
Dominion Theology
Local Church Movement
Mysticism
New Age in the Church
New Apostolic Reformation
The Emergent Church
The Government of 12 (G12)
The Purpose Driven Church
Universalism
Word of Faith Movement
Kenneth Hagin
False Prophets
Todd Bently - Lakeland


I thought the above was interesting-

Interesting that we didn't make her false religion list

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by StMark

They use to list "Jesus only doctrine" on that list - wonder why it was removed???

They get on the radio and bash other ministries - They are right about some of them but THEY are not the ones who should even think about going there

Trying to build a larger church like TD jakes

[South of I 90]

Originally Posted by StMark

I would like to know how JS is STILL so wealthy????

People in his area tell me his church has been practically empty for years

He owned and still owns some of the most valuable property in B.R. along the I-10 corridor. The Mall of Louisana and all the surrounding businesses is on property he sold for developement.

He also did not have any debt at the time the scandals broke back in 1986. What was under construction at the time came to a halt. There is multi-storied building, that looks bombed out because it was never completed. It has been a huge eyesore in one of the nicest areas of B.R for over 20 years.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by StMark

JImmy has been very hateful against the UPC. not that they've not been either but he had a worldwide audience.

The attacks were more against our doctrine then anything. I wonder why we were such a threat??

Anyhow, I understand that TW Barnes prayed against him after that and it wasn't long until.....

In his book Jimmy also pretty much showed he not only did not know Oneness but he also was a Trithiest not a Trinitarian

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

In his book Jimmy also pretty much showed he not only did not know Oneness but he also was a Trithiest not a Trinitarian

JS is clueless on Oneness doctrine as are most Trinitarians when they try to debate it. That includes people like Boyd and others who have debated it or wrote books.

[deltaguitar]

How many of you guys actually listen to JS on a regular basis? While I don't listen as much anymore I still listen to his study in the word almost every morning on my way to work. It is very rare that they mention the Oneness folks but they usually talk about us in a much better light than they do Rick Warren and all the other folks they bash.

I have also heard them say that many of us believe the same as them but it is just terminology. Sounds like they aren't as hard line as they once were.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by bishoph

RP is first cousin to Pastor Kirk (was/is ALJC)in Newark Ohio. He told Bro. Kirk that he new what OP's believed was the truth, but that he just couldn't afford to preach it. He has listened to JA preach man y times, as well as many others.

I would be very interested to know what RP thought was the truth. Was it the Oneness doctrine, standards, speaking in tongues to be saved, or baptismal regeneration?