Re: D. Bernard shares his thoughts about HolyMagic
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Originally Posted by Rhoni
What I am saying about Ruth is that she did not mean to start her own Doctrine but was writing as she was taught. She, like many of us, have had to hold on to what we believed or we would have fallen and not gotten up.
Who taught it to Ruth? Just curious....
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Re: D. Bernard shares his thoughts about HolyMagic
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Who taught it to Ruth? Just curious....
The two greatest influences in her life were her father and the Urshan's [Her mother's relatives]. Ruth was always a submissive woman as she and her sisters were taught by their Godly mother, who I love and respect. As far as exact teaching...you would have to ask her.
Blessings, Rhoni
P.S. I was her Youth Pastor when she was a teen but I didn't believe that while I was in UPCI.
Re: D. Bernard shares his thoughts about HolyMagic
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Who taught it to Ruth? Just curious....
I have heard that LS was a big infuence on her hair doctrine. For that reason when she divorced I thought perhaps her and LS would get together and take the UPCworld by storm!!!!!
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Re: D. Bernard shares his thoughts about HolyMagic
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
Am I the only one who doesn't see any sort of refutation to "magic hair" from Bernard? I don't even think he comments on it.
Points #1 and #2 address the Holy Hair power with the angels issue. Point #3 addresses the hair issue.
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Re: D. Bernard shares his thoughts about HolyMagic
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
Am I the only one who doesn't see any sort of refutation to "magic hair" from Bernard? I don't even think he comments on it.
Yeah, just you.
Kidding.
He does make one of the strongest "saved by grace through faith" statements that I've ever heard him make. If he had said only that and in another setting he would get some flack for it.
For this reason I didn't really see the strong "political" overtones that TimLan did. D.B. was definitely circumspect. But what do you expect? It's not quite the same thing as Obama's more than 100 "present" votes in the US Senate. But still, for a public figure the less you say the less you have to regret having said.
Re: D. Bernard shares his thoughts about HolyMagic
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Originally Posted by pelathais
Yeah, just you.
Kidding.
He does make one of the strongest "saved by grace through faith" statements that I've ever heard him make. If he had said only that and in another setting he would get some flack for it.
For this reason I didn't really see the strong "political" overtones that TimLan did. D.B. was definitely circumspect. But what do you expect? It's not quite the same thing as Obama's more than 100 "present" votes in the US Senate. But still, for a public figure the less you say the less you have to regret having said.
Re: D. Bernard shares his thoughts about HolyMagic
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Originally Posted by CC1
Please explain why the angels need a womans long hair to let them know she is under submission, "has power with God" etc but have no need of any outward symbols like that to tell if men are under submission or "have power with God"?
According to LS, men don't have power with God.
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Re: D. Bernard shares his thoughts about HolyMagic
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I have heard that LS was a big infuence on her hair doctrine. For that reason when she divorced I thought perhaps her and LS would get together and take the UPCworld by storm!!!!!
Two words...
EEEEEEEEEE YEW!!!!
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