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06-26-2008, 05:15 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
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Originally Posted by HaShaliach
Hey Praxeas kid -
I have compared my electronic BDB lexicon with my hard bound Gesenius. The Gesenius wins hands down. However, over the years I have come to respect your opinion on a number of issues. Therefore, I have just ordered my own hard copy of the BDB from Amazon.com. If it measures up to your suggested improvement over my Gesenius, thank you! If not, given the opportunity, I'll whip ya with both of them! LOLOL
Shalom Aleichem
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IF it is just the dictionary version then it is not much, but the full lexicon is one of the best I hear
A trio of eminent Old Testament scholars—Francis Brown, R. Driver, and Charles Briggs—spent over twenty years researching, writing, and preparing The Brown-Driver-Briggs Hebrew and English Lexicon. Since it first appeared in the early part of the twentieth century, BDB has been considered the finest and most comprehensive Hebrew lexicon available to the English-speaking student. Based upon the classic work of Wilhelm Gesenius, the "father of modern Hebrew lexicography," BDB gives not only dictionary definitions for each word, but relates each word to its Old Testament usage and categorizes its nuances of meaning. BDB's exhaustive coverage of Old Testament Hebrew words, as well as its unparalleled usage of cognate languages and the wealth of background sources consulted and quoted, render BDB and invaluable resource for all students of the Bible.
Amazon.com
BTW have you tried the twot?
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06-26-2008, 05:33 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
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... BDB has been considered the finest and most comprehensive Hebrew lexicon available to the English-speaking student. ... BDB gives not only dictionary definitions for each word, but relates each word to its Old Testament usage and categorizes its nuances of meaning. BDB's exhaustive coverage of Old Testament Hebrew words, as well as its unparalleled usage of cognate languages and the wealth of background sources consulted and quoted, ...
BTW have you tried the twot?
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My Gesenius also does all of that including listing all of the Binyanim usages with sample texts, plus rendering many of the words in Arabic, Syriac, German, and a bunch more. Even so, if the full version of the BDB (which I ordered) makes needed corrections (additions), then the few bucks are a good investment for language accuracy. With shipping it cost me $21.79.
No, I have not gone to the TWOT. Wish I could afford it! <whimper> Just too expensive! Of course, I will gladly accept it as a gift! Hint - Hint!
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06-26-2008, 06:01 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
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Originally Posted by HaShaliach
My Gesenius also does all of that including listing all of the Binyanim usages with sample texts, plus rendering many of the words in Arabic, Syriac, German, and a bunch more. Even so, if the full version of the BDB (which I ordered) makes needed corrections (additions), then the few bucks are a good investment for language accuracy. With shipping it cost me $21.79.
No, I have not gone to the TWOT. Wish I could afford it! <whimper> Just too expensive! Of course, I will gladly accept it as a gift! Hint - Hint!
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i want to get logos library or some other work with some better lexicons in electronic form. it is so much easier to find a subject
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-26-2008, 06:27 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
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i want to get logos library or some other work with some better lexicons in electronic form. it is so much easier to find a subject
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That is about $75.00, isn't it? That will have to wait until next year.
Sorry kids, really didn't mean to hijack the thread. But, it would be well worth the cost, if you can come up with it, to get some of these references materials for yourself and start your own Bible &* word studies. It should not change your beliefs, but it will give you a deeper understanding and appreciation of the words you read.
Really - go for it!
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06-26-2008, 07:01 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
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That is about $75.00, isn't it? That will have to wait until next year.
Sorry kids, really didn't mean to hijack the thread. But, it would be well worth the cost, if you can come up with it, to get some of these references materials for yourself and start your own Bible &* word studies. It should not change your beliefs, but it will give you a deeper understanding and appreciation of the words you read.
Really - go for it!
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actually logos, the one for languages, is much much more
this is their most expensive
http://www.logos.com/gold
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-26-2008, 07:10 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
this is probably better for what you want
http://www.bibleworks.com/bwintro.html
it runs about 349 dollars
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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06-26-2008, 07:12 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
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I'm glad you stop by now and then. I wish you'd post more often. Your thoughts and wisdom are appreciated.
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Thanks. I wander in every now and then just to see if the natives are restless. 
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06-26-2008, 07:14 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
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And ot think I get an email from a Logos rep every 3 months or so offering me a free copy of the Logos Scholar's Library if I'll attend their seminar and offer it to our students. I really should do that someday but thus far have been fairly pleased with PC Study Bible v5.
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06-26-2008, 07:37 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
Maybe it's just me, but...
I know God is offended by a variety of things us humans do, but somehow it's hard for me to think that He's offended by someone blurting out "oh my God".
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06-26-2008, 07:40 PM
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Re: Thou Shalt Not Take The Name..........
Posted this on another website a couple weeks ago, so might as well use it to state my opinion here.
Exodus 20:7
“You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain
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in vain,
a. without effect or avail; to no purpose: to apologize in vain.
b. in an improper or irreverent manner: to take God's name in vain.
Its ever more prevelant in todays society and especially the youth. Even Yahoo has now added a catagory in their social section titled "OMG". According to the definition above it is using the Lords name in vain. There is no real heart felt purpose or reverence when it is spoken as it is in this format so is it not disrespectful of God to do so ?
Further more the commandment says not to take the "name" of the Lord in vain. With the oneness of the Christ does this commandment not now include the name of Jesus ? Is it right to proclaim "Jesus Christ" to convey a feeling of surprise or aw ?
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