Gender Blending: Is it Wrong?

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

Sorry - I had to come back and post Thomas' picture (added it to Tracy's above)



The one on the right is a girl turned guy now pregnant - - now that's what I think Jesus is talking about being against.

I refuse to call her a guy. Just a mixed up female who took some hormones to grow a beard. They are a dime a dozen - nothing special or newsworthy about it.

[StMark]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I refuse to call her a guy. Just a mixed up female who took some hormones to grow a beard. They are a dime a dozen - nothing special or newsworthy about it.

BUT!!!! God ONLY looks at the heart ask Oneness Man!!!!!!!




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[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by StMark

BUT!!!! God ONLY looks at the heart ask Oneness Man!!!!!!!




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We aren't talking about wearing pants here. This is about actually wanting to look like a man, be a man. Get your facts straight. There is scripture for that!

[OneAccord]

Originally Posted by StMark

BUT!!!! God ONLY looks at the heart ask Oneness Man!!!!!!!




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I think OnenessMan is right....God does look at the heart. What we see in some of the examples given (pictures) are the results of what sin and rebellion against God does to a person. What causes a man to want to look like a woman? What is it in the heart of a person to steal? The act of stealing is the results of a sin deep in a persons heart. Thats what God sees. We see the affects of sin and call that sin. And, to a certain extent it is... but the sin that needs to be addressed isn't cross dressing and stealing. It goes deeper- what causes a a person to want to do wrong? Anniaas (spe) and Sapphira lied to the Holy Spirit and kept back part of the money. Their lie was the affect of the sin of greed that was buried deep within their hearts. Peter discerned their lie (the affect of sin) and dealt with it.... but their actual sin was greed. I can look at a persons actions and see their sinful ways, but only God can see deep within the heart to know the real reason a person does the thing he or she does.

Originally Posted by OneAccord

I think OnenessMan is right....God does look at the heart. What we see in some of the examples given (pictures) are the results of what sin and rebellion against God does to a person. What causes a man to want to look like a woman? What is it in the heart of a person to steal? The act of stealing is the results of a sin deep in a persons heart. Thats what God sees. We see the affects of sin and call that sin. And, to a certain extent it is... but the sin that needs to be addressed isn't cross dressing and stealing. It goes deeper- what causes a a person to want to do wrong? Anniaas (spe) and Sapphira lied to the Holy Spirit and kept back part of the money. Their lie was the affect of the sin of greed that was buried deep within their hearts. Peter discerned their lie (the affect of sin) and dealt with it.... but their actual sin was greed. I can look at a persons actions and see their sinful ways, but only God can see deep within the heart to know the real reason a person does the thing he or she does.

People look on the outward of a person but God looks on the heart. Here are some scriptural references:

1Samuel 16:7 But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

2Corinthians 10:7 Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ's, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.

I think that these verses of scriptures cut to the chase and speak loads of good wisdom.

[Monkeyman]

PP, this was a classic thread, thanks for the chuckle...man, you hit the mark...BULLSEYE!!!!! In the words of Prax...wow!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

I refuse to call her a guy. Just a mixed up female who took some hormones to grow a beard. They are a dime a dozen - nothing special or newsworthy about it.

I know, me too. When Oprah had HER on the show, they announced her as a "pregnant man." I told my mother, NO, she is a pregnant woman...of course.

What stupidity we have going on in our culture. They act as if she's some kind of miracle of science or something. LOL!!!!

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I know, me too. When Oprah had HER on the show, they announced her as a "pregnant man." I told my mother, NO, she is a pregnant woman...of course.

What stupidity we have going on in our culture. They act as if she's some kind of miracle of science or something. LOL!!!!

When this things picture was on Drudge for several days in a row it made me feel nauseous just looking at it.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I know, me too. When Oprah had HER on the show, they announced her as a "pregnant man." I told my mother, NO, she is a pregnant woman...of course.

What stupidity we have going on in our culture. They act as if she's some kind of miracle of science or something. LOL!!!!

Originally Posted by Baron1710

When this things picture was on Drudge for several days in a row it made me feel nauseous just looking at it.

It is disgusting!

[Prodigal]

Consideration should be given to the fact that an estimated 1 in 1500 are born "intersexed" or are determined to be neither exclusively male or female. Actual rates are higher since these rates are determined when a "specialist" in sex assignment is called in.

Depending on "culture", intersexed individuals have been expected to conform to either a male or female "gender role". In some cultures, intersexed individuals are included in a "third gender" classification.

To quote the Intersex Society of North America:

"In cases of intersex, doctors and parents need to recognize, however, that gender assignment of infants with intersex conditions as boy or girl, as with assignment of any infant, is preliminary. Any child—intersex or not—may decide later in life that she or he was given the wrong gender assignment; but children with certain intersex conditions have significantly higher rates of gender transition than the general population, with or without treatment".

It would appear that based on these scientic facts, not everyone is born either exclusively male or female, and that "gender identity" is more of what is between your ears rather than what form of genitalia you were born with.

I would think that the occurance of intersexed births would blur the lines of sexual/gender distinctives that are typically culturally based.