Isaiah 3 and jewelry... - Page 49

Baron1710 · #**481** 07-20-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp

I see, I'm "twisted" because I believe what the Bible actually says???? Can you not see how far off you are?

BTW, Bernard/Wilson,etc. repeatedly reference scholarly quotations in their works that agree...even trinitarians! But, unless they meet the approval of the Baron/Jeffrey board....sorry, throw their years of learning out the window! Hilarious!

Really? Show me the scholars they quoted to uphold your view of this passage.

Jeffrey · #**482** 07-20-2010, 03:32 PM

I sign off for a few hours and miss all the fun.

Is rdp still citing his "scholars?"

Jeffrey · #**483** 07-20-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Segraves gave me a breakdown of it several years ago, which included speed reading Greek & being able to translate it from the greek text. You're a hoot Jeffrey...not to mention predictable! Geee, how did I know you'd deride their scholastics. Hmmm, wonder how your credentials would stack up next to theirs...if you even have any!

Didn't you already put your foot in your mouth once with this rambling comment with Baron?

I examine the evidence of other scholars. These scriptures aren't as controversial as we are making it here on AFF. Only Puritans like yourself that choose to ignore the breadth and meaning of a text.

Jeffrey · #**484** 07-20-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

i wasn't comparing eating vs ornamention(what ever that is)

I was just showing how the word NOT was used to not mean a literal sense all the time in scripture.

John said love NOT in word, so does that mean we can't tell someone we love them??? You know it says not to do it.

The word "NOT", rdp. Clear and plain! Quit trying to erase the Word from God's own mouth!

rdp · #**485** 07-20-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

You really do come across as rather thick...this verse isn't about wearing clothes or braiding the hair or putting on Jewelry.

Good grief, does it get any worse than this? "Not with BRAIDED HAIR, GOLD, OR COSTLY ARRAY." But, Baron apparently knows better than the apostle Paul, since he tells us that it's "not about" the very thibgs that Paul wasted his time mentioning?!?!?! And I'M the "thick" one???? Unreal!

You can't seem to get it...seems plain to me...oh and every scholar out there that doesn't have an agenda.

Yes, very "plain" indeed! And I agree the scholars don't have an agenda...including Bernard, French, Treece, etc. Besides, your "agenda" is to make the Word of God of no affect thru your traditions...such as ornamentation.

Hmmm, try putting an ornament on the Governor's house & see what you get! REVELATION: NT believer's are God's temple/house! Sheesh...you guys are the one's that "don't get it!"

Jeffrey · #**486** 07-20-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Yes, very "plain" indeed! And I agree the scholars don't have an agenda...including Bernard, French, Treece, etc. Besides, your "agenda" is to make the Word of God of no affect thru your traditions...such as ornamentation.

Hmmm, try putting an ornament on the Governor's house & see what you get! REVELATION: NT believer's are God's temple/house! Sheesh...you guys are the one's that "don't get it!"

What an old and tired argument:

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But, Baron apparently knows better than the apostle Paul, since he tells us that it's "not about" the very thibgs that Paul wasted his time mentioning?!?!?! And I'M the "thick" one???? Unreal!

Silly rabbit, Baron is talking about Paul's own words.

Yes, you come off as quite "thick."

rdp · #**487** 07-20-2010, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

I had added some to my initial comment before I seen your response (It is in bold).

In response to your earlier response in bold [which I figured you would say], you're doing the same thing w/ the NIV, RSV, HCSB, etc. In the final analysis, textual critics state both based upon a reading of the greek "adorning". But, then we have to consider if we're dealing w/ the Majority Text, or the Critical Text...which enhances the discussion significantly.

Also, to specifically address your concern of the word costly not appearing in italics in the NIV, NLT, HCSB, RSV, etc. Do any words appear in italics in those translations?

[COLOR="DarkRed" Are you suggesting that these textual critics made their own stuff up, or was there something in the greek that caused them [about 337 linguistical experts] to come up w/ this...independent of the others? Let's be honest here.....[/COLOR]

Baron1710 · #**488** 07-20-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rdp

Yes, very "plain" indeed! And I agree the scholars don't have an agenda...including Bernard, French, Treece, etc. Besides, your "agenda" is to make the Word of God of no affect thru your traditions...such as ornamentation.

Hmmm, try putting an ornament on the Governor's house & see what you get! REVELATION: NT believer's are God's temple/house! Sheesh...you guys are the one's that "don't get it!"

I don't know about the others your quoting but I would be willing to bet that Segraves is not on board with the way you misuse this Scripture.

Jeffrey · #**489** 07-20-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

I don't know about the others your quoting but I would be willing to bet that Segraves is not on board with the way you misuse this Scripture.

I also have that hunch...

Though he claims his insights are from Segraves himsef. Hmmm...

rdp · #**490** 07-20-2010, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron1710

Really? Show me the scholars they quoted to uphold your view of this passage.

Ughhh, do your own homework....instead of expecting me to do it for you! I don't have the books w/ me where I'm at right now. See Bernard's "Practical Holiness," "In Search of Holiness," etc. Also see Treece/Segraves regrding I Cor. 11 & the hair issue. No, I won't mention the footnote in Louw-Nida's Semantic Domain regarding the grammar of the hair issue...I won't do it!