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12-28-2010, 06:01 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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One thing I hope we agree on is that God saves homosexuals like anyone else. We should show them the love of God. As a nurse I've worked with some, not one can say I've badgered them or mistreated them. I remember one time a coworker was making a snide remark about one at work that day, I told the man something like I don't condone it but still got to show him the love of Christ.
Going to weddings with gifts or speaking of their relationships in any positive light is not happening though.
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Amen. Homosexuality can be conquered through God's help! We have lost two friends of the family to aids. One was still a practicing homosexual and the other had been saved. Never did we show anything other than love and Christ to either.
Jesus IS the answer.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
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12-28-2010, 06:03 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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The case was decided in 1878. In 1890 the leader of the Mormon church announced God had changed His mind and no longer desired polygamy.
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The price of statehood...
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12-28-2010, 06:04 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Amen. Homosexuality can be conquered through God's help! We have lost two friends of the family to aids. One was still a practicing homosexual and the other had been saved. Never did we show anything other than love and Christ to either.
Jesus IS the answer.
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Glad to see we are all on the same page!!!
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12-28-2010, 06:06 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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The price of statehood...
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The only problem I have with polygamy is 2 mother-in-laws.......unless you marry sisters....
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12-28-2010, 06:07 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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The price of statehood...
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Statehood was a total red herring the man heard from God that God had changed His mind on a salvation standard of conduct.;-)
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12-28-2010, 06:13 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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Glad to see we are all on the same page!!!
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And I too am happy for that. I really think you are and even Mr. Smith - though I doubt those feeling have reciprocation from him.
I would truly like to know, with all the passion of the debate aside, which approach works best. I see it similar to the "permissive" or "tough love" debate in raising teenagers.
I realize the debate is to personal and emotionally charged to give many real life examples. But, I am curious whether the approach taken by Mr. Smith (attending homosexual weddings and blessing them with gifts etc.) actually results in people getting saved and leaving the homosexual lifestyle. That is, after all, the bottom line if we say that the real love of God is our motivation.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Last edited by *AQuietPlace*; 12-28-2010 at 07:01 PM.
Reason: corrected a name
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12-28-2010, 06:14 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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let me be crass.... really really crass...
killing an innocent baby is murder. doing so by walking into an abortion clinic with no reason relating to the survival of the mother, is premeditation.
I consider premeditated murder to be far more offensive offense than robbing someone.... even if you knock their teeth out in the process.
i do believe that someone who has had an abortion is fully capable of finding forgivness of their sin and should be cared for by the people of God.
I cannot for the life of me find a solid reason why a child of God would walk into a murder clinic and hold a woman's hand while she asks for a dr to kill her innocent baby.
Last time I checked (in Texas where you and I are) if a person walks into a store with a buddy who robs the place and kills the clerk, the "hand holder" is treated as a murderer too... even if they didnt have a gun when it happened.
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Come on, a woman's right to abort a fetus is legal, and we all know our rights are what our government is all about.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-28-2010, 06:16 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
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The case was decided in 1878. In 1890 the leader of the Mormon church announced God had changed His mind and no longer desired polygamy.
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Seriously? God changed His mind?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-28-2010, 06:23 PM
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
Having family and friends that choose sinful lifestyles is a hard thing to accept. We do not shun them, but love them and pray for them. Just like my family loved me when I was living a sinful lifestyle. And you CAN love the sinner, but hate the sin. ANY SIN!! You cannot show the way to salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ with hate. He did not die for some of us and not others.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-28-2010, 06:26 PM
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ultra con (at least here)
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Re: Was it necessary to repeal DADT?
Ferd
Loving the sinner while still in their sin.
The alternative seemingly proposed by others is have next to nothing to do with someone beyond perhaps toleration of their presence until they admit their sin, repent and beg forgiveness.
Apparently not all are capable of doing this. Different callings or different levels of maturity.
Regardless, I will not condemn those who refuse to eat meat sacrificed to idols. And if they chose to condemn those who have no problem eating it or befriending sinners just as and where they are so
be it.
Last edited by James Griffin; 12-28-2010 at 06:33 PM.
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