Welcome Azzan Thread

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Interesting thread. Those vocal against homosexuality are not loving, LOL, give me a break. The rest of ya are over compensating with all this "love" stuff.... There's glitter in the air.

A person that wants to change needs all the love that he can receive. When you have a person that says he'd be in a m2m relationship when given the occassion, he does NOT need all the lovey sentiment. His mind interprets that as acceptance. Acceptance of homosexuality.

I'm going to ask you what I've asked someone else.
The "fearful" are first in the list of those going to hell, as listed in the Book of Revelation, that's before homosexuality. Do you love those who are fearful? Do you receive them?
Do you attend church with any? Would you have any in your home?
If you do, are you concerned that they will interpret that as accepance of being fearful?

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by sandie

I'm going to ask you what I've asked someone else.
The "fearful" are first in the list of those going to hell, as listed in the Book of Revelation, that's before homosexuality. Do you love those who are fearful? Do you receive them?
Do you attend church with any? Would you have any in your home?
If you do, are you concerned that they will interpret that as accepance of being fearful?

The "fearful" here is not what one may think. It is not about scarety cat type fearful but, well, read what "fearful" actually is referring to in this passage.

Rev 21:8
But the fearful - Δειλοις· Those who, for fear of losing life or their property, either refused to receive the Christian religion, though convinced of its truth and importance; or, having received it, in times of persecution fell away, not being willing to risk their lives.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Bowas

The "fearful" here is not what one may think. It is not about scarety cat type fearful but, well, read what "fearful" actually is referring to in this passage.

Rev 21:8
But the fearful - Δειλοις· Those who, for fear of losing life or their property, either refused to receive the Christian religion, though convinced of its truth and importance; or, having received it, in times of persecution fell away, not being willing to risk their lives.

Who are you quoting? That sounds like commentary

For the fearful (tois deilois). Old word (from deidō, to fear) for the cowardly, who recanted under persecution, in N.T. only here, Mat_8:26; Mar_4:40.
Robertsons Word Pictures

Mat 8:26 And he said to them, "Why are you afraid, O you of little faith?" Then he rose and rebuked the winds and the sea, and there was a great calm.

Mar 4:39 And he awoke and rebuked the wind and said to the sea, "Peace! Be still!" And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
Mar 4:40 He said to them, "Why are you so afraid? Have you still no faith?"

Seems fearful is related to not having faith in Christ or trusting him

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Bowas

The "fearful" here is not what one may think. It is not about scarety cat type fearful but, well, read what "fearful" actually is referring to in this passage.

Rev 21:8
But the fearful - Δειλοις· Those who, for fear of losing life or their property, either refused to receive the Christian religion, though convinced of its truth and importance; or, having received it, in times of persecution fell away, not being willing to risk their lives.

Thank you.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Berkley

Thank you.

I can take God at His Word and I can also learn new things.

So, let's try another instance...it's hard to pick, there are so many.
But, let's say you're sitting next to someone who has lusted.

Jesus said those who look on a woman to lust have committed adultery in their hearts. Adulterers are hell bound.
If you treat them the way you would want to be treated, do you think you are putting your seal of approval on their sins?

Did Jesus put a qualifier on what we call the golden rule?

Should we treat others the way we want to be treated? Didn't Jesus say do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Did he say except for_____?

I have yet to read one single person who has told Azzan that his lifestyle is perfectly permissable. Yet a few of you have insisted somehow that's what is being done.

Even though Jesus didn't come into the world to condemn, I guess that gets overlooked.

Too bad, because Azzan isn't any worse a sinner then I am without the Blood of Jesus or even...you.

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by sandie

I have yet to read one single person who has told Azzan that his lifestyle is perfectly permissable. Yet a few of you have insisted somehow that's what is being done.
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I know what I've crawled out of... and some here were/are aware of my past. If you have not been there, you do not know the mind-set.

Azzan did not come here looking for help. He came here to give an opinion. If he said "I am struggling, I want help..", the reception would have been different. Azzan stated that he would enter into a homosexual relationship if given the occassion. Huge difference.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Berkley

I know what I've crawled out of... and some here were/are aware of my past. If you have not been there, you do not know the mind-set.

Azzan did not come here looking for help. He came here to give an opinion. If he said "I am struggling, I want help..", the reception would have been different. Azzan stated that he would enter into a homosexual relationship if given the occassion. Huge difference.

So tell us all what we should do, Mr. Experience.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by notofworks

So tell us all what we should do, Mr. Experience.

I still say we're suppose to do unto others as we would have them do unto us..oh wait, that's not what I say...it's....oh yeah...Jesus!

I'm still waiting for the qualifier Jesus gave. Maybe I missed something since I don't know greek.

[Praxeas]

We are supposed to condemn him to hell and beat him incessantly over the head with "the truth" while declaring him a reprobate...which means he can't be saved anyways. That makes sense. I wonder why Fred Phelps clan isn't over running with former homosexuals

[Adam]

Originally Posted by notofworks

So tell us all what we should do, Mr. Experience.

Repent, and be baptized, and receive the Holy Gho.... oh, nevermind.