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Old 07-18-2015, 12:43 AM
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(Not to mention you would be supporting the overthrow -yet again - of the Constitution which requires POTUS to be a natural born citizen, which - as I previously demonstrated from the relevant Court cases and statements of the Founders and related, contemporaneous documents - Cruz, like Obama, is NOT a natural born citizen.
Per this article written for the Harvard Law Review, March 11, 2015 by Neal Katyal & Paul Clement, former US Solicitor Generals, Cruz passes the requirement. Full article is worth the read, but below is their take on Cruz, McCain, Goldwater and Romney.

"While the field of candidates for the next presidential election is still taking shape, at least one potential candidate, Senator Ted Cruz, was born in a Canadian hospital to a U.S. citizen mother.

Despite the happenstance of a birth across the border, there is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a "natural born Citizen" within the meaning of the Constitution. Indeed, because his father had also been resident in the United States, Senator Cruz would have been a "natural born Citizen" even under the Naturalization Act of 1790."

"Similarly, in 2008, one of the two major party candidates for President, Senator John McCain, was born outside the United States on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to a U.S. citizen parent.

Despite a few spurious suggestions to the contrary, there is no serious question that Senator McCain was fully eligible to serve as President, wholly apart from any murky debate about the precise sovereign status of the Panama Canal Zone at the time of Senator McCain's birth."

"And for the same reasons, both Senator Barry Goldwater and Governor George Romney were eligible to serve as President although neither was born within a state. Senator Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood and was the Republican Party's presidential nominee in 1964, and Governor Romney was born in Mexico to U.S. citizen parents and unsuccessfully pursued the Republican nomination for President in 1968."

"To serve, an individual must be at least thirty-five years old and a "natural born Citizen." Thirty-four and a half is not enough and, for better or worse, a naturalized citizen cannot serve. But as Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is generally a U.S. citizen from birth with no need for naturalization. And the phrase "natural born Citizen" in the Constitution encompasses all such citizens from birth. Thus, an individual born to a U.S. citizen parent -- whether in California or Canada or the Canal Zone -- is a U.S. citizen from birth and is fully eligible to serve as President if the people so choose."

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Old 07-18-2015, 08:25 AM
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David, Elias isn't going to listen. He also thinks we can operate without free trade even while having American companies operating all over the world. It's the details that needed to be worked on, i.e., currency manipulation, etc.
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Ted Cruz's statement regarding shooting of the shooting in Chattanooga on Friday, declaring it an act of war:

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“Mohammod Youssuf Abdulazeez was there to carry out jihad, an act of radical Islamic terrorism,” Cruz’s statement reads. “An act of war, in which those four brave Marines lost their lives, while at least two others were wounded.”

“In the wake of this vicious attack on our nation we need to rid ourselves of two dangerous delusions, first and foremost that a ‘lone gunman’–as President Obama described the shooter–is somehow isolated from the larger threat of radical Islamic terrorism,” he continued. “In the modern world, no one acts in isolation. Through social media ISIS, al Qaida, and other groups are infiltrating our nation with impunity while our government will not even admit that radical Islamic terrorism is a problem.”
I was also reading Brad Thor saying: "When does a 'Lone Wolf' become part of a pack?"
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David, Elias isn't going to listen. He also thinks we can operate without free trade even while having American companies operating all over the world. It's the details that needed to be worked on, i.e., currency manipulation, etc.
So, Ted Cruz wasn't born in Canada because a law college said so?
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Old 07-20-2015, 10:10 AM
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It is interesting to note that Senator Ted Cruz, as the state's primary legal council (Solicitor General) litigated in the Supreme Court on several occasions against George W. Bush.

The most important case was Medellin v. Texas. You can Google that case, if interested. More importantly, Cruz states in his book, A Time for Truth:

"Today, the Court's decision in Medellin is especially important. At the time of this writing, the Obama Administration is threatening to try to go to the United Nations to end run Congress and get a Security Council resolution adopting whatever Iran nuclear deal they are able to negotiate. The purpose, they have explained, is to try to transform that UN resolution into domestic law that would bind a subsequent president. But, as the Court held in Medellin, the UN has no authority whatsoever to bind the United States. President Obama's UN-Iran strategy cannot succeed, because Medllin made explicit that no president - Republican or Democrat - has the constitutional authority to subvert U.S. sovereignty. The Medellin victory was profound for me because our argument had gotten to the heart of how I understood our government." Pages 166-167

He also shows me something about our new Governor - Greg Abbott - who looks to becoming a much better Governor than Rick Perry:

Pg. 146: "When Attorney General Abbott appointed me to the job, he told me, "I want you to look across the country, and if we can step up, defend conservative principles, and make a meaningful difference, go do it."

Pg. 163-164: "The president's executive order - written as a memorandum to his attorney general - left the state of Texas with a difficult choice, George W Bush was the former governor of Texas. He was a Republican. He was a friend of Greg Abbott's and mine, not to mention my former boss. Would we really argue in court that his executive order was the abuse of power we believed it to be?

I am proud to say that Abbott never wavered. He knew that Texas was right and Bush was wrong, and he decided to stand up for the principle that no president - not even a friend and fellow Republican - can defy the Constitution. And so I went to the Supreme Court and argued on behalf of Texas that, with or without an executive order endorsing it, the United Nation's World Court has no authority to bind the courts of the United States."

Reading Ted Cruz's book is bringing remembrance of cases fought and won, which I didn't realize, at the time, it was Ted Cruz litigating for us. Awesome!
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Ted Cruz sits down with the Odgaards, thanking them for taking a stand for religious liberty and for telling their story.

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Cruz religious rally to feature Gortz Haus owners

A religious rally held by Ted Cruz will feature an Iowa couple shutting down their business after litigation arose from their denial to host a same-sex marriage.

The story of Dick and Betty Odgaard, the owners of the Gortz Haus in Grimes, plays prominently in a video announcing the rally from the Cruz campaign.

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...ards/30445803/
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Sen. Cruz and Rep. Salmon Introduce “Kate’s Law,” the Establishing Mandatory Minimums for Illegal Reentry Act
Bill would establish five-year minimum for illegal aliens who have reentered the country after having been removed


WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) introduced "Kate's Law," the Establishing Mandatory Minimums for Illegal Reentry Act of 2015 as a companion to legislation introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives by Rep. Matt Salmon (R-Ariz.). The bill would amend federal law to impose a mandatory minimum sentence of five years for any illegal reentry offense. The bill is named for Kate Steinle, the 32-year-old woman who tragically died in the arms of her father on a San Francisco pier after being shot by an illegal alien who had several felony convictions and had been deported from the United States five times.
http://www.cruz.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=2395


Complete bill text for Kate's Law can be found here:

http://www.cruz.senate.gov/files/doc...s/MDM15D29.pdf

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Ted Cruz Grills ICE Director About Thousands Of Criminal Illegal Aliens Released Without Charge

Cruz cites the statistics that ICE Director says she doesn't have.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...releasing.html

An illegal is committing a murder in America every 12 days, and that only includes those reported.
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