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11-02-2007, 11:11 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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*** ATTENTION SISTER BEEZER ***
You need to go after this Man!! He is NOT a Man of God!
You need to SUE HIM!! you deserve a monitary settlement for the abuse you took!!! get off your tailbone and DO IT!!!
I'm going to contact a lawyer myslef and see what kind of recourse you would have
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11-02-2007, 11:12 AM
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GO CUBBIES!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: La
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Originally Posted by SisBeezer
wow i have been reading this thread for almost an hour now, it is incredible. and i was beginning to think i was one of the only ones who had been through such a mess. i was in two different churches like this. believe me, they are very real and very abusive.
the first church i was in, here are some of the rules:
1) no one under any circumstance could wear the color red, or own anything that was red, no red cars, nothing
2) i was not married by the time i moved to this church, so i was required to give the pastor, keys to my house, my car, he had his name put on my bank account. single women could not even run to the grocery store alone.
3) besides the normal you cant cut your hair rule, they had it, if you were 14 or under you were required to wear your hair down. no pony tails, no bows, no clips, nothing. after 14 you were required to wear your hair up at all times until you married. then you could wear your hair down, only in the presence of your spouse. only thing allowed in your hair was bobby pins. not even hair spray was allowed.
4) you could not purchase anything or take a job without the pastors approval and when you first move there or join that church, if he didnt like your job, or home or car, you were forced to change it, imediately.
5) under no circumstances was a single person allowed to have any visitor in their home unless it was same sexed relatives. i was under constant watch because i was a single mother with two sons. he at one point tried to force me to move my sons out of my home, because he said it did not look right for boys to live with a single lady (omg i was their mother!)
6) no sports were allowed at all for anyone at any time. you couldnt even go in your own yard and play catch with your own children and heaven forbid if you shot a basket!
7) they allowed no dating at all. if a guy liked a girl, he met with the pastor for a year, then the pastor went to the girls parents if he approved, and told them that he had her husband. then the marriage was planned between the pastor and parents. after marriage, he said when they could have children and when they couldnt.
i could go on but i am sure this one post wouldnt hold it all. sigh the next church was just as bad, almost the same rules stated applied, plus a few new ones
1) no electronic devices were allowed, no tv, no cell phone, no computer, no radio, no MICROWAVES even, we were required to use wind up alarm clocks even!!
2) if you wanted to go out to eat after a service, you were only allowed to go with your immediate family, and had to order it to take home.
3) under no circumstance were you ever allowed to visit another church, OF ANY KIND! i made the mistake of visiting a revival that a friend from work was going to at her church, and they were apostolic! i wont say what i went through over that one.
4) we were not allowed to go to any kind of doctor, dentist or anyone in the medical profession, no medication is allowed at any time, not so much as an asprin.
anyways the list is endless. what made me finally leave and never go back was, one night around 3am, the pastor came into my home, i was in bed asleep as was my youngest son, he was 15 at the time. the pastor drug my son out of his bed, with the help of four other elders, they took him out into the street into the church building that was across the street and beat him from head to toe. when i asked as to why this was happening, i was told that God told him that my son was watching porn on a tv hidden in his closet! there was no tv anywhere in my home at the time, for we were not allowed any electronics.
this is very real, and there are so many that are being spiritually abused at the hands of so called pastors. if you have not experience this you need to thank God that he protected you, but for many this is very real and very damaging. dont look down on those who leave the churches all together because of this. these kinds of abuses are the worst. its one thing to be abused by friends or family, but when you are abused by your pastor and church it does something that is not easily healed. its easy to sit and pass judgement on us, but until you have walked in our shoes you have no idea just how deep this pain goes.
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i am SHOCKED!!!! I could not imagine ANYONE staying in a church situation like this!!!! WOW is all i can say! Thank the Lord you got out of there!!!!!!!
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11-02-2007, 11:12 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,966
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Go to the DA and the media and have him arrested and then sue the pants off the nut case. That place needs to be shut down and he needs to be in PRISON! Where is this - I will be happy to contact the media there and have him put on the front page of the paper and on the news tonight!
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Wayne, we need to help this Lady.
Sis Beezer, we'll take this to the media if you'll PM us
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11-02-2007, 11:14 AM
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GO CUBBIES!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: La
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Go to the DA and the media and have him arrested and then sue the pants off the nut case. That place needs to be shut down and he needs to be in PRISON! Where is this - I will be happy to contact the media there and have him put on the front page of the paper and on the news tonight!
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i agree!
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11-02-2007, 11:15 AM
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Urban Pastor
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Salisbury, NC
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Cult Church
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Originally Posted by Thad
Wayne, we need to help this Lady.
Sis Beezer, we'll take this to the media if you'll PM us
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She needs to put him in PRISON and strip him of everything he has! What a total moron! He does not deserve to be out on the street!!!!!!!!!!
I will do all within my power to help her get a lawyer and sue him for everything he has and close that CULT CHURCH DOWN! He is a total PERVERT and needs to be put in prison!
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11-02-2007, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
It's so sad and we all understand it's not the norm, but that doesn't mean that it's not out there.
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Not the norm, but we really don't know how many there are... I am praying this will help...that others will see it and know they are not alone...its not about bashing its about healing and knowing truth...I hope there are some who will read this and see for themselves what they are in, and realize its not OK to be in that kind of church....
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11-02-2007, 11:17 AM
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Jellybean!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Oregon
Posts: 6,996
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Originally Posted by rgcraig
It's so sad and we all understand it's not the norm, but that doesn't mean that it's not out there.
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I wish there was some way of putting a stop to this...it hurts so deeply.
People under this kind of leadership don't even realize how wrong it is...but their bodies do. There is so much sickness because deep down their hearts and souls know something's wrong. When something's wrong, it comes out one way or another.
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11-02-2007, 11:17 AM
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Beautiful are the feet......
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Right...behind...you!
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Red flags should go up when one is seperated from the rest of the population. That is a cult, and I'm so glad you were able to get away from that! Unbelieveble...it makes me boil!
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11-02-2007, 11:24 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 6,966
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
She needs to put him in PRISON and strip him of everything he has! What a total moron! He does not deserve to be out on the street!!!!!!!!!!
I will do all within my power to help her get a lawyer and sue him for everything he has and close that CULT CHURCH DOWN! He is a total PERVERT and needs to be put in prison!
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well said! i agree
the ball is in her court now. i've asked her to PM me
***ATTENTION JAMES GRIFFIN ****
Please read this and give us some advice here ! we could use your help about right now thanks !!
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11-02-2007, 11:24 AM
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My Family!
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Collierville, TN
Posts: 31,786
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Originally Posted by Thad
*** ATTENTION SISTER BEEZER ***
You need to go after this Man!! He is NOT a Man of God!
You need to SUE HIM!! you deserve a monitary settlement for the abuse you took!!! get off your tailbone and DO IT!!!
I'm going to contact a lawyer myslef and see what kind of recourse you would have
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Thad, it's probably best she just move on.
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