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Old 09-30-2010, 04:05 PM
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.

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Where is the Bishop's clear and flat denial of the allegations?


Where is his concern to clear his name?



In the words of one of his congregants, "We want the truth man!"
That's what I'm not hearing.

If I was innocent you bet I would have worded that speech on Sunday completely different than he did.
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Re: Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.

I really hope that I am not coming across as one that wants to crucify the man of God at the center of this.

I am not.

However, there can't be restoration until there is an admission of guilt.

I hate when stuff like this unfolds publicly. If sin is going to happen (and it will) I would rather that people have the opportunity to retain their dignity.


I don't think God is in the business of embarrassing people as everyone has sinned and we all need Jesus desperately.

Yet these accusations are public now and the man of God needs to face them head on.

So much is riding on how the man of God handles this situation!

The accusations alone have hurt so many.

If there is any truth to them, just multiply the "many" by hundreds.


All that is necessary is a clear-cut denial.
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Where is the Bishop's clear and flat denial of the allegations?


Where is his concern to clear his name?



In the words of one of his congregants, "We want the truth man!"
He said He was NOT the man THEY are portraying

He has a lawyer and they are gonna FIGHT this.

Where is his confession?
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Wow. I have a hard time even reading that. I feel bad for you and hope I never get to the place that I view other people that way. Your view of this is really, really sad.
Mr. Smith,

Seriously. How is my view sad?

How am I or anyone else-- how are we supposed to think about this?
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A reminder, he has not been found guilty of anything yet and all we have are accusations
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Where is his confession?


Seems to me that would be the next thing we hear-- or should hear.


It would be easier to stand by him, one way or the other, if he would not leave any room for questioning.
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A reminder, he has not been found guilty of anything yet and all we have are accusations
I do not have any stones-- neither will I pick any up.

He is still a man of God.
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Seems to me that would be the next thing we hear-- or should hear.


It would be easier to stand by him, one way or the other, if he would not leave any room for questioning.
Seems to me that until he makes a confession or is proven guilty, we should not rush to judgment
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I do not have any stones-- neither will I pick any up.

He is still a man of God.
Right....the man is guilty but Im not gonna throw a stone. What does that mean?
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Right....the man is guilty but Im not gonna throw a stone. What does that mean?
I am not calling him names.

I am not discounting his ministry.

I am not denying that God has used him and his ministry.


I am hoping that God will allow him the wisdom to gracefully step down if there is any truth to the accusations.


Saying that he is guilty is not casting stones, it appears to me to be a matter of fact.

Fact requires proof.

He had the perfect opportunity to flatly deny the accusations and that honestly would have been proof enough for me.


I would have believed him over his accusers if he had just denied the accusations.


His sidestepping of the issue only further damages his credibility.

Why leave room for questioning?
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