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02-16-2008, 02:27 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
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Originally Posted by StMark
Now,I could understand a teenager blaming behavior merely on Peer pressure but a mature grown person?? You are telling me that everything you proclaimed as your own conviction was just pressure placed on you to conform?
I have seen pastors who preached certain things for years, touting it as a deep "conviction',only to discover years later it wasn't anymore. I've seen this really throw people for a loop. It messed their heads up. I think that saints have to be held to some accountability in this area too.
I do understand your case was extreme and have extended my sympathies to you but to say that one should just be free or ALL convictions is a recipe for spiritual disaster
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yes that was what I was saying, I wanted to be apart of the inner circle of my church, be a part of the working body, I wanted to be totally accepted and if I did not dress the part...I would not have been accepted I wanted to please my daughter, and her husband, I wanted to be loved and would do what ever it took, and I thought I have found the real thing(I have found out not so true)....I believed that if I was good enough, worked hard enough, and looked holy enough I would be loved accepted and make it to heaven..............now I know I am saved through Jesus Christ and his sacrifice....he died on the cross to open the door for me to have a personal relationship with Him...I am not condemning anyone, or telling anyone they should be like me...this is my experience....my life....,my relationship with God....personal.
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02-16-2008, 02:57 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
OK everyone...I was foolish to take the test, and reveal my true self to you all, and I was foolish to try to defend myself....and I am just plain foolish to even be here....I guess you could say this is my farewell post...because I have NOTHING to offer this forum anymore that can be productive...the thing I find interesting is that everyone accepted me until I reveal how I dress...hahahaha it just proves my point....I am so outta here and I have to tell you all this forum has been good in times when I was lonely and needed online friends.(which is apparently condtional).....but ya know I have new friends that love me for who I am not for what they think I should be, and they judge me by my character not my appearance ...life is short and people are wonderful if you learn to love them as Jesus does! I am sorry if I have ruffled your feathers or upset you....
Mark I thought someone ask Thad to not post anymore.....just because you change your name does not mean you change who you are...you do these things to stir the pot get everyone all worked up...you really should be ashamed of yourself and I am sorry I took part in this thread.....it has caused feeling in people that are not good, and I am sorry I was apart of that...
and with that........ladies and gentlemen I will climb on my Harley and ride off into the sunset...to the rest of my life...which is rich and full of love and God and I am the happiest and most content I have ever been..........Bless you all!
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02-16-2008, 02:58 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
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OK everyone...I was foolish to take the test, and reveal my true self to you all, and I was foolish to try to defend myself....and I am just plain foolish to even be here....I guess you could say this is my farewell post...because I have NOTHING to offer this forum anymore that can be productive...the thing I find interesting is that everyone accepted me until I reveal how I dress...hahahaha it just proves my point....I am so outta here and I have to tell you all this forum has been good in times when I was lonely and needed online friends.(which is apparently condtional).....but ya know I have new friends that love me for who I am not for what they think I should be, and they judge me by my character not my appearance ...life is short and people are wonderful if you learn to love them as Jesus does! I am sorry if I have ruffled your feathers or upset you....
Mark I thought someone ask Thad to not post anymore.....just because you change your name does not mean you change who you are...you do these things to stir the pot get everyone all worked up...you really should be ashamed of yourself and I am sorry I took part in this thread.....it has caused feeling in people that are not good, and I am sorry I was apart of that...
and with that........ladies and gentlemen I will climb on my Harley and ride off into the sunset...to the rest of my life...which is rich and full of love and God and I am the happiest and most content I have ever been..........Bless you all!
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Before you go, could you make a list of those who decided not to "accept" you because of your dress? Thanks.
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02-16-2008, 03:18 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
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Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker
OK everyone...I was foolish to take the test, and reveal my true self to you all, and I was foolish to try to defend myself....and I am just plain foolish to even be here....I guess you could say this is my farewell post...because I have NOTHING to offer this forum anymore that can be productive...the thing I find interesting is that everyone accepted me until I reveal how I dress...hahahaha it just proves my point....I am so outta here and I have to tell you all this forum has been good in times when I was lonely and needed online friends.(which is apparently condtional).....but ya know I have new friends that love me for who I am not for what they think I should be, and they judge me by my character not my appearance ...life is short and people are wonderful if you learn to love them as Jesus does! I am sorry if I have ruffled your feathers or upset you....
Mark I thought someone ask Thad to not post anymore.....just because you change your name does not mean you change who you are...you do these things to stir the pot get everyone all worked up...you really should be ashamed of yourself and I am sorry I took part in this thread.....it has caused feeling in people that are not good, and I am sorry I was apart of that...
and with that........ladies and gentlemen I will climb on my Harley and ride off into the sunset...to the rest of my life...which is rich and full of love and God and I am the happiest and most content I have ever been..........Bless you all!
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...I don't get it.
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02-16-2008, 03:33 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
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Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker
OK everyone...I was foolish to take the test, and reveal my true self to you all, and I was foolish to try to defend myself....and I am just plain foolish to even be here....I guess you could say this is my farewell post...because I have NOTHING to offer this forum anymore that can be productive...the thing I find interesting is that everyone accepted me until I reveal how I dress...hahahaha it just proves my point....I am so outta here and I have to tell you all this forum has been good in times when I was lonely and needed online friends.(which is apparently condtional).....but ya know I have new friends that love me for who I am not for what they think I should be, and they judge me by my character not my appearance ...life is short and people are wonderful if you learn to love them as Jesus does! I am sorry if I have ruffled your feathers or upset you....
Mark I thought someone ask Thad to not post anymore.....just because you change your name does not mean you change who you are...you do these things to stir the pot get everyone all worked up...you really should be ashamed of yourself and I am sorry I took part in this thread.....it has caused feeling in people that are not good, and I am sorry I was apart of that...
and with that........ladies and gentlemen I will climb on my Harley and ride off into the sunset...to the rest of my life...which is rich and full of love and God and I am the happiest and most content I have ever been..........Bless you all!
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Hey, SisterTruthSeeker!!!!!
You'll notice that I had no input for this thread and I rarely post on standards threads. The reason is that "standards or convictions" - whatever anyone wants to call them - are the most personal things and an individual thing! It's too personal to touch in someone's life!
It would be a big shame to all of us Gabby's ladies for you to leave forever!
Now, park that Harley on another thread - Gabby's!!!!!!!
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02-16-2008, 03:48 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
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Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker
yes that was what I was saying, I wanted to be apart of the inner circle of my church, be a part of the working body, I wanted to be totally accepted and if I did not dress the part...I would not have been accepted I wanted to please my daughter, and her husband, I wanted to be loved and would do what ever it took, and I thought I have found the real thing(I have found out not so true)....I believed that if I was good enough, worked hard enough, and looked holy enough I would be loved accepted and make it to heaven..............now I know I am saved through Jesus Christ and his sacrifice....he died on the cross to open the door for me to have a personal relationship with Him...I am not condemning anyone, or telling anyone they should be like me...this is my experience....my life....,my relationship with God....personal.
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This does happen in some cases.I've seen it in other forms too.It's called "kissing tail" to get to the top. However,Istill believe the local church should admonish and teach practical living and christian guidelines within reason(in some situations this is not the case). I don't believe we are law unto ourselves so to speak. some convictions should be personal too.
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02-16-2008, 03:50 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
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Originally Posted by Sister Truth Seeker
OK everyone...I was foolish to take the test, and reveal my true self to you all, and I was foolish to try to defend myself....and I am just plain foolish to even be here....I guess you could say this is my farewell post...because I have NOTHING to offer this forum anymore that can be productive...the thing I find interesting is that everyone accepted me until I reveal how I dress...hahahaha it just proves my point....I am so outta here and I have to tell you all this forum has been good in times when I was lonely and needed online friends.(which is apparently condtional).....but ya know I have new friends that love me for who I am not for what they think I should be, and they judge me by my character not my appearance ...life is short and people are wonderful if you learn to love them as Jesus does! I am sorry if I have ruffled your feathers or upset you....
Mark I thought someone ask Thad to not post anymore.....just because you change your name does not mean you change who you are...you do these things to stir the pot get everyone all worked up...you really should be ashamed of yourself and I am sorry I took part in this thread.....it has caused feeling in people that are not good, and I am sorry I was apart of that...
and with that........ladies and gentlemen I will climb on my Harley and ride off into the sunset...to the rest of my life...which is rich and full of love and God and I am the happiest and most content I have ever been..........Bless you all!
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This is not necessary. Your posting has not caused what you described.
we are here to express our feelings,opinions and beliefs. I thought everyone was keeping it pretty light hearted actually.
there's no reason for this STS
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02-16-2008, 04:29 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
AG to be fair to the Mrs., I do believe there have been occasions that many of us have faced and we did do things to "fit In". Only to realize later, when we were no longer around a certain group, what we told were convictions was something else, and the pressure to "do" certain things was no longer there.
I would have to agree that peer pressure is a powerful thing. But it's in every circle and is expressed in many ways like houses and cars ect. I do not believe that the only thing and the only place that experiences peer pressure is the UPC church, it is in any and every social group there is-imo.
Not everyone succumbs to peer pressure or social expectations, but I do believe it is in most of us to want to "fit in".
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Jeanie, I am not around a group that requires me to do anything yet I still hold to my standards... does that make something wrong with me?! No... Get over it ok??? I know that yall dont hold em and I dont care... doesnt mean that those of us who chose too are unhappy or are depressed... I think yall seem to be the ones who have more of an issue with it because you are the ones constantly talking about being in bondage... get a life.... If I want to put on a pair of jeans I can and not one person would say a word... however I chose not to and its because thats something between me and God and no one else and not you nor any other person can discount. I dont have to give some people the benifit of the doubt... I see how they walk their walks ... and I see how I walk mine and all I know is I will have to answer for me on Judgement day and thank God not them!
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02-16-2008, 04:32 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
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Before you go, could you make a list of those who decided not to "accept" you because of your dress? Thanks. 
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Yea I would like to see that too!
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02-16-2008, 05:43 PM
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Re: LADIES please take my Holiness Test Thanks
Lets see.... A bunch of happy Apostolics that are bound and oppressed by their dress. Something is wrong with this idea, or maybe they didn't get the memo that they were supposed to be depressed. LOL!
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