Charismatic Bishop In Lawsuit.

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

No - - I was first saying that out of the millions that are sent to prison if there's only been 200 wrongly send to death row that wasn't so bad.

But, I was reading too fast.

You know, after yet another innocent man was set free from death row, the governor of Illinois commuted the sentences of....I think.....190-something death row inmates. "Commuted"? Is that the right word? I think so. They were re-sentences to "Life" and investigations were opened up on several.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

So, so, so true. For the sake of those who will respond, "See, I knew it all along, I quit!", I'm desperately hoping this is all a scam. And for the sake of several young men who make have been harmed, I hope they really weren't. Easier to heal them of a con than a molestation.

But, I can't believe these young men would be willing to say these things if they weren't true - no matter how much money is involved.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

No - - I was first saying that out of the millions that are sent to prison if there's only been 200 wrongly send to death row that wasn't so bad.

But, I was reading too fast.

Yes but where did you come up with the figure of 200 liking the jets for the superbowl?

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

But, I can't believe these young men would be willing to say these things if they weren't true - no matter how much money is involved.

I can think of a couple of reasons, but I don't even want to speculate. I'd feel grimy. Unfortunately, false accusations do happen. And yes, I'll admit, they're usually not false, but it does happen.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Really?????? You've already determined his guilt?

In a word, "Yes."

I look at it as HE has determined his guilt-- long before this thread, long before the accusations.



There is no way that these guys would come on national tv, without hiding, and accuse such a powerful man of God to his face, in the face of millions, unless the man is guilty.


Even without the public nature of the accusations, Bishop Long's own wording betrayed him.

A flat and clear denial is all that was necessary and he gave his congregation everything except that.


The man was attempting to shore up support from his congregation, as he knows very well that most sane Christians will find his actions beyond unacceptable for a Pastor.

He knows he will have to tell them truth, and he made a plea to his congregation to stand by him.

I sure hope he does not intend to retain his Pastorate, but it appears that he may indeed try to do that, given his language to his congregation.

This would bring mockery and shame to the cause of Christ.


We can stand by him, help this perpetrator heal, and allow him to gracefully step down from his Pastorate without devouring him.

[Praxeas]

I never thought a woman would kill her kids, go on TV and say a black man did it, but that happened

I never thought a white woman would burn her face with acid and say a black woman did it, on TV....but that happened too

[Mr. Smith]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

In a word, "Yes."

I look at it as HE has determined his guilt-- long before this thread, long before the accusations.

There is no way that these guys would come on national tv, without hiding, and accuse such a powerful man of God to his face, in the face of millions, unless the man is guilty.

Even without the public nature of the accusations, Bishop Long's own wording betrayed him.

A flat and clear denial is all that was necessary and he gave his congregation everything except that.

The man was attempting to shore up support from his congregation, as he knows very well that most sane Christians will find his actions beyond unacceptable for a Pastor.

He knows he will have to tell them truth, and he made a plea to his congregation to stand by him.

I sure hope he does not intend to retain his Pastorate, but it appears that he may indeed try to do that, given his language to his congregation.

This would bring mockery and shame to the cause of Christ.

We can stand by him, help this perpetrator heal, and allow him to gracefully step down from his Pastorate without devouring him.

Wow. I have a hard time even reading that. I feel bad for you and hope I never get to the place that I view other people that way. Your view of this is really, really sad.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

I never thought a woman would kill her kids, go on TV and say a black man did it, but that happened

I never thought a white woman would burn her face with acid and say a black woman did it, on TV....but that happened too

Where is the Bishop's clear and flat denial of the allegations?


Where is his concern to clear his name?


In the words of one of his congregants, "We want the truth man!"

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Mr. Smith

Wow. I have a hard time even reading that. I feel bad for you and hope I never get to the place that I view other people that way. Your view of this is really, really sad.

How on google-earth could my view be sad?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Even Hawaii came forward to vouch for Obama during the prolonged birther scandal.


Who will vouch for this Pastor?

He has not even affirmed his own innocence and maybe that's because he's not interested in lying.